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Grilled steak using the cold grate method

Posted on 11/22/19 at 4:52 pm
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 4:52 pm
This is a version of the reverse sear.
The idea is to have a sear zone on a kettle grill and to sear your steak for 1 minute and then flip it as you rotate the grill so the the grill your steak is sitting on is relatively cool, and doesn't put sear marks on the steak. This gives you more area where the maillard reaction occurs and leads to a tastier steak.

Anybody else tried this?

First, I dry brined the steak, which was a 2" ribey from my local butcher.


I cooked it over indirect heat to 115 degrees and then removed it from the grill. I got the coals smoking hot in the Slow n Sear and put my backup grate on the grill, so it was cool, and seared the steak for one minute, rotated the grill 45 degrees and flipped the steak. I repeated 2 more times for a total of 4 minutes of searing - 1 minute and flip, 1 minute and flip, and so on. I rotated the grill 45 degrees before every flip. Every time I rotated the steak, I brushed it with some butter that had rosemary and garlic in it. I kept the butter on the indirect side of the grill.


You can see the distinct separation between the direct and indirect zones created by the Slow n Sear.


Then I laid the steak on some chopped garlic, because that's what I like to do and let it rest for a few minutes.



I laid it open, and it was delicious. Truth be told, I'll probably pull it at 110, next time, but is was still VERY good.


I did some skirt steaks at the same time, and they turned out great. I recommend this method very highly.



This post was edited on 11/23/19 at 12:23 pm
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 5:48 pm to
No thank you
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 5:50 pm to
What temperature does the milliard reaction occur on the surface of a steak?
Posted by Matisyeezy
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 5:55 pm to
You've been trying different techniques for years now

truth is

I'd love to bring the beer and have you cook the steak. Be good to finally meet.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 6:15 pm to
Janky’s head just exploded.
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7911 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 6:34 pm to
The grill marks aren’t the problem with Maillard reaction, it’s the areas not touching the iron that aren’t getting the reaction.

I’m struggling with this because I love the flavor of steak grilled over wood/coals, but also love the crust you get from searing.

I saw a half moon iron flat iron that would fit on my BGE so I’m thinking of getting one of these to I can get the best of both worlds.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
33256 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 7:00 pm to
:nahfrickallthat: this is why I prefer a cast iron seared steak on a hot as frick grill. I want that crust all over

If it was good props to you though
Posted by ThruThickandThin
The Zone
Member since Mar 2017
1445 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 7:02 pm to
Sounds like a lot of work for the same result. Reverse searfor me
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44806 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 7:36 pm to
I got the cast iron grill grates and love them.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74474 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 8:04 pm to
Get the grate close enough to the coals, and the flare up from the ribeye’s drippings will get ya the sear ya want on a grill
This post was edited on 11/22/19 at 8:17 pm
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
28208 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 8:11 pm to
I think some people mistake char for maillard reaction. The steak does not have to be touching metal to get the maillard reaction. It is caused by dry meat and heat.

This steak had a very nice maillard crust. I think it is a tad shiny and more amber than brown because of the rosemary garlic butter I was brushing onto it, but the maillard flavor was there. As I mentioned, I will pull it a little sooner next time and sear it a little longer. I would like to get it a tad browned on the outside.
This post was edited on 11/22/19 at 8:24 pm
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
28208 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 8:15 pm to
quote:

What temperature does the milliard reaction occur on the surface of a steak?



300 degrees. Maillard is the change in color of food and only happens in the absence of water. Think carmelized onions - they only caramelize when most of the water in the onion is evaporated.
This post was edited on 11/22/19 at 8:18 pm
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
28208 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 8:18 pm to
quote:

I'd love to bring the beer and have you cook the steak. Be good to finally meet.


Any time. I'm in Indy...
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80727 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 8:26 pm to
quote:

300 degrees. Maillard is the change in color of food and only happens in the absence of water. Think carmelized onions - they only caramelize when most of the water in the onion is evaporated.


I understand what it is.

I've always thought you could sous vide a steak then get a crust using a cast iron pan exactly at 300 degrees with the help of an infrared thermometer. Would be interesting.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
28208 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:06 am to
I think the problem with doing it at exactly 300 degrees is that it would take so long that your medium rare steak will be medium well by the time you get a crust.

The opposite of that is to put your steak on a metal surface that is so hot that you burn it. The point of the cold grate method is to try, as best you can, to get an even Maillard reaction while keeping the char to a minimum.

I, personally like char and have posted my charred steaks many times. That is why I plan on searing a little longer, next time for a tad bit more char. It also looks like the areas that didn't get basted as much w/butter ended up more charred. Will keep that in mind next time.

That said, I really like how this steak came out.
This post was edited on 11/23/19 at 9:07 am
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:47 am to
This has been a very interesting thread.

quote:

That said, I really like how this steak came out.


In the end, that's all that really matters.
Posted by Janky
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

Janky’s head just exploded.



Hey Net.














Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118270 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 1:06 am to
Hello little friend.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46672 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:35 am to
quote:

I’m struggling with this because I love the flavor of steak grilled over wood/coals, but also love the crust you get from searing.



Put the steak directly on the coals.

You can thank me later.

Posted by SmokedBrisket2018
Member since Jun 2018
1544 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 8:42 am to
Am I the only person who thinks that is a NY Strip and not a Ribeye?
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