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First time making paella
Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:23 pm
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:27 pm to jmarto1
Don’t skimp on the saffron. Shits expensive but it makes the dish.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:27 pm to jmarto1
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Any tips?
You got to cook it to where you start to hear it crackling on the bottom to get the soccrat (the sort of burned crispy bottom) that is integral to a good paella. If you think you've burned it, you're good.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:31 pm to jmarto1
hardest part for me was to get an even fire under the pan. They make special burners for paella pans. I dont have one and tried to do it over my crawfish burner and then again on multiple burners on my stove. I never got that crust that I was looking for because I had to constantly stir to cook evenly. Ive now got a fire pit with a cooking rack that would be a more even heat source. I think its traditionally cooked over a wood fire.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:41 pm to AbitaFan08
Yea, those saffron threads were $20. I couldn't find a paella pan in town so fhe best option I have is a wok. Am I wasting my time?
Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:59 pm to jmarto1
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best option I have is a wok
I think you would have trouble getting the crust right in a wok. Not enough flat surface probably. But I bet the dish would still taste great.
The times I’ve made paella, it was hit or miss on getting socarrat to form.
Funny thing though is I get the same result on a different dish I make sometimes.
Spatchcocked chicken roasted in a shallow pan over a mound of rice with similar ingredients. The rice turns out perfect every time. And you have a chicken to eat as bonus.
The rice turns out perfect every time. Thin crusty layer all across the bottom.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:00 pm to jmarto1
you could probably just use a very large skillet. Cast iron may actually be a great alternative to a traditional pan. I think it would distribute the heat very well. I think I actually had a small paella in Seville in cast iron
Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:05 pm to AbitaFan08
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Don’t skimp on the saffron. Shits expensive but it makes the dish.
I would also say get some good paprika and not the stuff that McCormick puts in their can. Go to a local spice shop and get some good paprika.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:12 pm to RedHawk
Houma is short on that unfortunately
Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:16 pm to jmarto1
I use this Jose Andres recipe and it always comes out aces. LINK
Occasionally I will cook it on my BGE or over live fire but I find transferring it to a really hot oven after the first five minutes or so after rice added to broth does a good job. The crust on the bottom requires a lot more patience than I’ve ever been able to muster. Do find it’s easier to get the soccarat reheating it the next day in a hot pan - like fried rice.
Occasionally I will cook it on my BGE or over live fire but I find transferring it to a really hot oven after the first five minutes or so after rice added to broth does a good job. The crust on the bottom requires a lot more patience than I’ve ever been able to muster. Do find it’s easier to get the soccarat reheating it the next day in a hot pan - like fried rice.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:54 pm to Professor Dawghair
Interested in the specifics on your spatchcocked chicken and rice.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 4:00 pm to Professor Dawghair
Is that just dry rice and peppers or do you add liquid to make it like a paste? Looks really good!!
Posted on 7/5/22 at 4:06 pm to unclejhim
Apologies to OP. Didn’t mean to hijack the thread... I just think of this dish when the subject of socarrat in paella comes up.
Maybe you can get decent paella results in an oven as someone suggested earlier in this thread. I’ve never found the right consistent combination doing it over an “open fire” in a traditional paella pan. I’m sure practice makes perfect...
Aubie & Uncle: I sauté aromatics like bell pepper, onions, garlic etc enough to get them sweating but not fully done because they will be roasted later. Mix in cooked rice and whatever proteins you like - sausage, crawfish, shrimp etc. With shrimp, I just mix them in without cooking. With sausage, I brown it along with the veggies. Season the rice combo to your taste.
You would think the long bake would over cook the shrimp but they are fine (maybe because the chicken keeps everything from drying out) I do chop them up in smaller pieces if using I’m using shrimp.
Add enough chicken stock to the rice mixture to make it moist but not wet or soupy.
A basic paella combination would work fine I think. Adding saffron would be a nice addition to what I usually do.
Use a shallow baking pan that has some thickness to it... but nothing special... a basic sheet pan with shallow sides.
Spread some olive oil in the pan and mound the rice up to fit the shape of the bird and place the seasoned spatchcocked chicken over it.
Roast at 375 till the chicken is done... probably an hour and fifteen minutes or so.
I think cooking the rice topped with chicken adds a lot of flavor to the rice and it probably keeps the rice from drying out before the crust forms.
I’ve probably done it 5 or 6 times and the rice is always perfect. I’m trying to think of a good way to describe how much broth to add, and all I can think of is to say add enough broth to make it moist but not soupy.
Maybe you can get decent paella results in an oven as someone suggested earlier in this thread. I’ve never found the right consistent combination doing it over an “open fire” in a traditional paella pan. I’m sure practice makes perfect...
Aubie & Uncle: I sauté aromatics like bell pepper, onions, garlic etc enough to get them sweating but not fully done because they will be roasted later. Mix in cooked rice and whatever proteins you like - sausage, crawfish, shrimp etc. With shrimp, I just mix them in without cooking. With sausage, I brown it along with the veggies. Season the rice combo to your taste.
You would think the long bake would over cook the shrimp but they are fine (maybe because the chicken keeps everything from drying out) I do chop them up in smaller pieces if using I’m using shrimp.
Add enough chicken stock to the rice mixture to make it moist but not wet or soupy.
A basic paella combination would work fine I think. Adding saffron would be a nice addition to what I usually do.
Use a shallow baking pan that has some thickness to it... but nothing special... a basic sheet pan with shallow sides.
Spread some olive oil in the pan and mound the rice up to fit the shape of the bird and place the seasoned spatchcocked chicken over it.
Roast at 375 till the chicken is done... probably an hour and fifteen minutes or so.
I think cooking the rice topped with chicken adds a lot of flavor to the rice and it probably keeps the rice from drying out before the crust forms.
I’ve probably done it 5 or 6 times and the rice is always perfect. I’m trying to think of a good way to describe how much broth to add, and all I can think of is to say add enough broth to make it moist but not soupy.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 7/5/22 at 4:25 pm to Professor Dawghair
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Spatchcocked chicken roasted in a shallow pan over a mound of rice
Mrs Perple (no pics) does something similar with bread instead of rice. Also creates a tasty as F crust.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 4:54 pm to jmarto1
Buy the pan. Go slow.Adjust amounts to the temp of oven on next round.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 5:15 pm to PerplenGold
That’s interesting perple... I guess covering the rice with something keeps it from drying out before the crust forms. Never thought of bread. Bet it’s great.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 5:49 pm to Professor Dawghair
Dammit, I want that rice! It looks so good.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 6:11 pm to nwacajun
I'll make it in a wok tonight and order a pan
Posted on 7/5/22 at 6:20 pm to jmarto1
Best advice I can give is to have everything prepped and staged when you start. It builds quickly. I make mine in a paella pan over charcoal in my weber kettle. It's not anything I would want to do in this summer heat.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 7/5/22 at 7:31 pm to Btrtigerfan
I'm definitely not completely prepared but I doubt it tastes bad. I have good prep habits from growing up in the family restaurants and did just that. I may pick out a few restaurants in Nola that have this on the menu and go eat theirs as research
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