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re: Crab Ban?
Posted on 3/4/17 at 12:22 pm to BRgetthenet
Posted on 3/4/17 at 12:22 pm to BRgetthenet
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I suspect our terrible derelict trap problem could be behind this somewhat and getting them out of the water for a little while could help with it. Traps out of the water might get the attention they deserve instead of letting them go until they abosuletly need to be repaired. Ropes rot and break and tons of crabs die in a trap that will never be pulled.
That's what I've heard this was all about.
Then there's the issue of crabbers all of a sudden filling every bayou in and out of my duck lease and me not seeing them in the morning coming in. I don't mean to chop the rope but when it's dark and a trap every 5', it's kind of inevitable...
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Posted on 3/4/17 at 3:10 pm to Canard Noir
Problem is LDWF only has control over how many people can crab, not how many traps the people can use (commercially).
Effort on catch isn't controlled by the number of people, but by the number of traps.
Effort on catch isn't controlled by the number of people, but by the number of traps.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 3:38 pm to 4WHLN
Seems like there are more traps than water on some of the lakes and bayous around here.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 7:22 pm to 4WHLN
I've had a crab ban on since that night with Becky " 2 Holer" Johnson in 12th grade.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 12:46 pm to gaetti15
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Problem is LDWF only has control over how many people can crab, not how many traps the people can use (commercially).
Effort on catch isn't controlled by the number of people, but by the number of traps.
The problem is it's a problem and any control will probably be just as mishandled as the fishermen. I started my career as a fisheries scientist until I realized $30k/ year doesn't pay the bills. I'm firmly aware of the issues we face and there really is no easy answer....
Posted on 3/5/17 at 2:36 pm to Canard Noir
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started my career as a fisheries scientist until I realized $30k/ year doesn't pay the bills
Lol state workers get paid shite regardless, unless your politically connected.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:49 pm to gaetti15
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Lol state workers get paid shite regardless, unless your politically connected.
LOL, I wasn't a state worker and I got paid shite but it was a fun job fresh out of LSU. Seems like another lifetime ago...
Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:09 pm to Canard Noir
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Then there's the issue of crabbers all of a sudden filling every bayou in and out of my duck lease and me not seeing them in the morning coming in. I don't mean to chop the rope but when it's dark and a trap every 5', it's kind of inevitable...
You should stick to the front of the lease and stay out of the sanctuary baw! I need those buoys to tell me where the mud flats are.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:49 pm to Canard Noir
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Lol state workers get paid shite regardless, unless your politically connected.
LOL, I wasn't a state worker and I got paid shite but it was a fun job fresh out of LSU. Seems like another lifetime ago...
I know Mark McElroy who retired as a fisheries biologist. Great guy and takes care of about 300 private ponds. Does pretty well.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:55 pm to Canard Noir
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there really is no easy answer....
I disagree, there is a very easy answer, bring on the catch shares for Blue Crabs. Letting Gaetti and his overlords at the EDF decide who deserves the right to catch crabs, and have the gov't dole out the resource to a select few fishermen who will sustainainably harvest the proper amount of crabs Is our only chance at saving this endangered species from being wiped out of our marsh completely.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 10:05 pm to Whatafrekinchessiebr
Posted on 3/6/17 at 1:51 am to Whatafrekinchessiebr
You should stick to the front of the lease and stay out of the sanctuary baw! I need those buoys to tell me where the mud flats are.
You sonofabitch... how's the baby?
Posted on 3/6/17 at 2:16 am to BRgetthenet
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I suspect our terrible derelict trap problem could be behind this somewhat and getting them out of the water for a little while could help with it. Traps out of the water might get the attention they deserve instead of letting them go until they abosuletly need to be repaired. Ropes rot and break and tons of crabs die in a trap that will never be pulled.
That's what I've heard this was all about.
Up here we have to use pots with an escape hole because pots are lost or their ropes get cut.
Something else that may eventually happen is we aren't allowed to keep ANY females at any time and there's a minimum size for dungeness crab.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 6:23 am to LSUintheNW
Crab Traps here are required to have an escape hole so the small crabs can escape. I watched a news report on one of the crab fisherman talking about the ban. He had a shite ton of crab traps stocked in his yard..... they all had a zip tie covering the escape hole.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 12:48 pm to BRgetthenet
The number of crab traps out there has exploded in the last 20 years or so to where in some areas its hard to avoid them with your boat, with traps put almost on top of each other. Also the number of crabs is being depleted. You used to could go and catch all you wanted on any bayou but not now. I think the state should start limiting the number of crab licenses they give out and limit the number of traps a crabber can have. Otherwise the resource is going to all but go away.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 1:30 pm to crap4brain
Seeing the industry decline and number of fisherman decline over the last 30 years, I would assume there are less fisherman now. Probably a considerable amount if I had to guess (if it follows the trend of shrimpers and commercial fisherman).
Is there any data on number of fisherman, traps per fisherman, and amount caught per trip that would back up the month ban? I'm just asking because I don't know if there is.
I do know there are a lot less crabs being caught now than say 15+ years ago. I've heard all kinds of reasons for it though. Less fisherman, larger population of redfish, less habitat, and even oil spill affects (although you hear this for several things).
Is there any data on number of fisherman, traps per fisherman, and amount caught per trip that would back up the month ban? I'm just asking because I don't know if there is.
I do know there are a lot less crabs being caught now than say 15+ years ago. I've heard all kinds of reasons for it though. Less fisherman, larger population of redfish, less habitat, and even oil spill affects (although you hear this for several things).
Posted on 3/6/17 at 2:00 pm to JasonL79
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Is there any data on number of fisherman,
yep
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traps per fisherman,
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amount caught per trip
yep
LDWF Blue Crab Stock Assessment 2016
Link to the stock assessment.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 2:02 pm to gaetti15
Crabs are everywhere right now in Lake Borgne; the season was closed to drive the prices up
Posted on 3/6/17 at 2:11 pm to JasonL79
Less fishermen doesn't mean less traps though. You have fellas running 250 up to as many as 400 traps a day. That came with the invention of rakes. 20-30 years ago they were pulling pots by hand. 100 a day was kicking arse.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 4:05 pm to Seldom Seen
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it's a bunch of BS. They're making all these guys pull all their traps out of the water for a whole month. They say its for the smaller crabs to grow but its really these sports fishing a-holes who are behind it.
Just curious to see what you think should be done.
I like seafood, I like that people can make a living delivering me something I like. I don't want to have to go catch my own seafood when I want it. I have no ill will towards commercial fishermen but the number of traps in the water these days is absolutely absurd and crab numbers are dwindling.
When I say there's no easy answer, I meant it because there needs to be some kind of balance. Commercial fishermen have to make a living to feed their families. I sell pumps and pump equipment and I would sell my factory out of pumps if I could. Just like I want to sell more pumps every minute of everyday is just like a fisherman's desire to catch as much of whatever he can everyday, it's just human nature. The government is forever fricking up the management and fishermen have forever overfished every resource everywhere that has a market. Crabs aren't particularly high on many rec's list of species to fish for so I don't think there's some huge lobby for this. What do you think it is?
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