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re: Completely messed up a gumbo by having the roux break. Need help

Posted on 12/12/16 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 12/12/16 at 2:00 pm to
I promise. I boiled the crap out of my Thanksgiving gumbo and whisked for over an hour. It did eventually blend together and even began to thicken but it still had small pellets in it that never did come together and it tasted horrible. Maybe if I had had the time to boil for 5 hours or something...
Posted by Darla Hood
Near that place by that other place
Member since Aug 2012
14108 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 2:14 pm to
I had a roux break for the first time yesterday and maybe it was the room temperature stock, but I've done it that way before. After much whisking, it eventually reincorporated. My gumbo was purty! (I say that despite all the down votes it got in the dinner thread last night).
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
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Posted on 12/12/16 at 4:24 pm to
I thought that bowl of gumbo looked very good, Darla.

Who knows why things work one way all the time and then not the next time. I've also heard people say that it breaks on occasion when the roux is too dark. I make a pretty dark roux every time. Flour can be finicky. That's why I don't bake!
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57844 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

I've made probably 40 gumbos and have never had a roux break. I always use room temp stock to hot roux.




I've made over 40 and never had one break as well. No offense to the OP, but i don't understand how people have so much trouble with a gumbo. 1) i've never ladeled in my stock. I just add all of it to the roux and stir it up, then bring it to a boil. 2) My stock is either room temp or fridge temp. It's never really mattered. 3) i make my roux and then pitch the stock to the roux. I don't make roux ahead of time.

This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 4:28 pm
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
48857 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 4:36 pm to
its only happened to me once and nothing i did (whisking, egg yolks, immersion blender, etc) worked

i didnt do anything different it just happened

science i guess...
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
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Posted on 12/12/16 at 4:37 pm to
It could even be the amount of gumbo being made. Don't know. I've never added stock to the roux. I always add roux to the stock.
Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 12/12/16 at 7:11 pm to
Ate my leftovers tonight and this is truly the best I ever made. The pic uploaded sideways but you get the point.

Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5422 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 10:22 am to
By the way, does gumbo give anyone else the worst heartburn? It is the only downside but I just take antacid before and after eating and I am fine. If I forget then I really regret it. Can't figure out what it is, all the flour?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57844 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 10:25 am to
I'll be making my annual smoked duck and sausage gumbo this weekend for a christmas party next week. Plan to cook it then freeze it and reheat at the party. I'll post pics.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 10:29 am to
quote:

By the way, does gumbo give anyone else the worst heartburn? It is the only downside but I just take antacid before and after eating and I am fine. If I forget then I really regret it. Can't figure out what it is, all the flour?


I've never had the issue. Do you put tomatoes in your gumbo? The acid could be an issue. Any other foods with similar properties or ingredients give you this problem?
Posted by hardhead
stinky bayou
Member since Jun 2009
5747 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 10:41 am to
grease and spice are the two main culprits for heartburn

as for the roux breaking, next time put it on low and wait it out stirring occasionally, don't push the panic button, it will come around.
Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5422 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 10:44 am to
quote:

. Do you put tomatoes in your gumbo?


Get out of here.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 11:03 am to
quote:

Get out of here.


No need to be ugly. Some folks use tomatoes and they can cause heartburn. I don't use them or okra.
Posted by Stexas
SWLA
Member since May 2013
7024 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 11:16 am to
quote:

I think you saw something you've never seen before and panicked and didn't let it cook. It will blend and meld into the dish. Put the lid on it and have a beer next time
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 11:52 am to
quote:

By the way, does gumbo give anyone else the worst heartburn?


Yep. Without fail.

Imma eat it anyway.
Posted by JasonL79
Houston area
Member since Jan 2010
6425 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

I've made over 40 and never had one break as well. No offense to the OP, but i don't understand how people have so much trouble with a gumbo. 1) i've never ladeled in my stock. I just add all of it to the roux and stir it up, then bring it to a boil. 2) My stock is either room temp or fridge temp. It's never really mattered. 3) i make my roux and then pitch the stock to the roux. I don't make roux ahead of time.


I used to think the same as you until it happened to me two times in a row. It can definitely happen. In my case, I think it was the flour or oil. I've made it a few times since with new flour and oil, and never had the issue again.

I can't really explain it but when it happened there was no blending it together. I let it simmer for 20-30 minutes and it was not blending together. The roux was clumped up on top of the liquid.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57844 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

I used to think the same as you until it happened to me


I feel like this is the beginning to a PSA...
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16623 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 2:22 pm to
You could also use a dry roux.

By using toasted flour instead of oil, you get the roux flavor and the same texture without the oily residue. Without the oil, roux can't "break".

Most people will never know there's no (maybe just a tablespoon or two) oil.
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 2:28 pm to
Never had a roux break. Is that what it looks like in the last pic?
Posted by Geaux2Hell
BR
Member since Sep 2006
4796 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 3:23 pm to
Interesting topic. Never knew this was a thing. I've heard of a broken hollandaise and numerous fixes for that. I want to say a blender was one solution.
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