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re: Chili recipe ideas to reduce tomato flavor.

Posted on 4/24/21 at 7:07 pm to
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/24/21 at 7:07 pm to
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shake the seeds out and steep just the dried pepper pod. I always purée the soaked pods in just a bit of water then use the rest of the soaking water to add liquid to the pot

that liquid plus a beer is all you need for liquid



I will give this a shot!
Posted by Ryan3232
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Posted on 4/25/21 at 12:01 am to
Add a little sugar
Posted by DaBeerz
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Posted on 4/25/21 at 4:00 am to
You are using some F’ed up recipe with six cans of tomatoes. I just use one can of rotel and some adobo chipotles from the jar. I cheat with Guidry mix and also add a chopped up poblano pepper. No chili for me again till fall though, and I do like beans, so what texicans
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/25/21 at 8:42 am to
As mentioned, cut the tomatoes. Add chili powder. Add ancho chili powder. Add cumin. Add a diced habanero. Float a jalapeño for a while in it with slices in the side. I dump a Guinness beer in ours and beef stock. No water. Work on adding these things in dumps to give your chili a layered flavor profile. Chili isn’t gumbo or etouffee. Great chili flavor is built and “stacked” in the pot. You really want to ratchet it up, dice up some smoked brisket and add that. And don’t use crap chili meat. You don’t want all that grease capping the top and not letting liquid evaporate.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8076 posts
Posted on 4/25/21 at 10:23 am to
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You are using some F’ed up recipe with six cans of tomatoes.


As I mentioned in a post above:

60 oz in my 9 qt batch for 4.5# of meat. 13:1 ratio.

Comparable to Gris Gris recipe above which uses a 28 oz can for 2.0# of meat. 14:1 ratio.

It comes out pretty good but I liked it better when I cut down the tomaotes last time.

As others have said I am going to try steeping chilis and blending them for the base next time. I didn't use beer either so I will use that as well for the liquid.

This post was edited on 4/25/21 at 10:25 am
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 4/25/21 at 1:56 pm to
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substituted 3 of the 6 cans of diced tomatoes with Manwich sauce,


Posted by LoneStarRanger
Texas/Europe
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 4/25/21 at 2:13 pm to
Do what cowboys often did...throw in some coffee, whiskey, or beer.

I often put coffee and beer in mine

Also, a great touch is bacon grease, and chipotles in adobo sauce, you can get it in almost any Mexican section at Walmart/grocery stores. Just make sure to blend the peppers

I don’t do tomato
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8076 posts
Posted on 4/25/21 at 2:16 pm to
It actually came out pretty good. That added some sweetness so I didn't add any sugar/chocolate like I usually do.

Again, large overall volume so it wasn't like eating a sloppy joe.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29221 posts
Posted on 4/25/21 at 2:37 pm to
Don't use tomatoes. That'll fix the tomato flavor. Use a pepper slurry instead. Go buy a couple different types of dried peppers. Toast them, then simmer them for a bit until they're really soft. Blend it all up. I also like adding a high abv stout/porter. Add half, and drink half.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/25/21 at 2:41 pm to
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Sounds like a ton but remember this is a 9 qt pot.

It's still an obscene amount of tomatoes.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8076 posts
Posted on 4/25/21 at 2:54 pm to
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It's still an obscene amount of tomatoes.



I don't know about obscene. In line with Gris Gris recipe above and the ratio actually came from a Boilermaker chili recipe I found online. Tomato based chili is certainly more of a yankee thing than what is made in the South or Texas. Which as some people have said have absolutely no tomato ingredients.

But I will be trying to migrate to a chili pepper based liquid rather than tomato based in the future.

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/25/21 at 2:56 pm to
Maybe I've spent too much time in TX. I'm not opposed to tomatoes but 6 cans seems like a lot for a 9 quart pot.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8076 posts
Posted on 4/25/21 at 3:00 pm to
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Maybe I've spent too much time in TX. I'm not opposed to tomatoes but 6 cans seems like a lot for a 9 quart pot.



Agreed.

It comes out pretty good but you would definitely have to like tomato based chili to eat it. I grew up with that as my Mom was from Wisconsin and all Chili up North I've seen is tomato based.

I think the other spices, flavors, and meat are getting lost in the tomato flavor as it is dominating.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
15652 posts
Posted on 4/25/21 at 4:47 pm to
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Do what cowboys often did...throw in some coffee, whiskey, or beer.

I often put coffee and beer in mine


Ditto. But for the coffee, use about a TBL of instant coffee instead of adding more liquid.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162458 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 12:32 pm to
leave all the tomato paste and stewed tomato's; add brown or white suga, 1 cup of coffee, beef broth, 1 can of beer.
Posted by xXLSUXx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2010
10577 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 12:50 pm to
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I have changed the following:
-eliminated the 8 oz tomato paste from the recipe (helped)
-substituted 3 of the 6 cans of diced tomatoes with Manwich sauce, my thought was it is still tomato based but more savory (helped and added a little bit of sweetness).


Have you tried changing out the wife?
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