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re: Chain Lovers Alert, Red Lob, Olive Grdn Failing

Posted on 8/3/12 at 8:07 am to
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 8/3/12 at 8:07 am to
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The "truths" that refute my stance are things that you are making up out of thin air.


oh because I was wrong about OG's fresh veggie stance...again, ignore everything else
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And as we've seen you have a pretty poor track record on that so far.
Who is we? You and your little buddy in your pocket?
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And again, I don't disagree that there are better sauces at other places. It's just rather curious that you can't explain why one sauce at your favorite place is better than the OG sauces.


Dude... I've said it several times and it's not a tough concept for most other than you apparently. It's like Papa Johns says, "better ingredients make better pizzas".

Better ingredients + better receipes(seasonings/method/prep)

Cheap stock + cheap milk + cheap tomatoes + cheap cheese + lack of seasoning usually equates to mediocre dish. Oh but you said cheap ingredients =/= bad food. Yeah, hold on to that stance because I'm sure OG is out there searching for the highest quality ingredient right now regardless of price. Oh wait, they use better ingredients than Chili's/Applebees. Well shite. They've gotta be good.

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You've batting 0 right now.
You haven't even made it to the plate w/ your lack of ability to comprehend a simple thread.

And FYI, I've worked at high end Italian(Gino's) and low end Italian(Pokies), so you can pimp your OG experience to somebody else. You're hard to talk to.

I don't have to be in their kitchen to realize the difference in quality of ingredients. Pretty crazy, but you can taste it.

I'm not playing w/ you today. It's like having a conversation w/ a child.
This post was edited on 8/3/12 at 8:15 am
Posted by LSU lilly
Member since Aug 2010
8959 posts
Posted on 8/3/12 at 8:52 am to
I appreciate LL, Power, Tigertown, Afro, and others who supported me having my own opinion.

Maybe I just love Olive Garden too much, who knows.
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
114109 posts
Posted on 8/3/12 at 9:11 am to
lilly, i thought you held your own very well in this thread against the heavy hitters along with that little miss know it all with the tiny body, pretty face and huge tits named LL .

I'd like to buy you dinner at OG one evening and hear more about your strange, erotic journey from Milan to Minsk.
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
12667 posts
Posted on 8/3/12 at 9:19 am to
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I'd like to buy you dinner at OG one evening
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30358 posts
Posted on 8/3/12 at 9:20 am to
I think we should reserve a room and have a big F&D critics night out at the OG.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
29709 posts
Posted on 8/3/12 at 9:28 am to
Can't speak for every OG, but the one on Siegen is utter garbage. If they do indeed use fresh ingredients, then the fault lies with the cooks for not knowing how to properly season or cook food.

I guarantee I could use their same ingredients and make a flavorful meal. They for some reason cannot. OG sucks
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30358 posts
Posted on 8/3/12 at 9:35 am to
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utter garbage
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OG sucks


And here we go again.
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 8/3/12 at 9:40 am to
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I think we should reserve a room and have a big F&D critics night out at the OG.
No no no. Just no.
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 8/3/12 at 9:42 am to
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And here we go again
maybe he can entertain Pman 'cause I'm done w/ him in this thread.

Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30358 posts
Posted on 8/3/12 at 9:42 am to
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No no no. Just no.


Aw c'mon, it would be fun!
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 8/3/12 at 9:44 am to
I could go for some all you can eat breadsticks.

Do they have happy hour? Think I'ma needa be drinkin for this one.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30358 posts
Posted on 8/3/12 at 9:47 am to
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Do they have happy hour? Think I'ma needa be drinkin for this one.




It could be epic.

Zach could bring his wife.
Count could bring...well just him would be entertaining.
Might even be some fistfights!
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 8/3/12 at 9:54 am to
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Jeremy Mcknight, General Manager
When you're in the mood for great Italian food in Baton Rouge, join us at Baton Rouge Olive Garden. We focus on delighting each and every guest with an authentic Italian dining experience. Our menu features a variety of Italian specialties, and every entrée is served with our famous, freshly baked garlic breadsticks and your choice of homemade soup or garden-fresh salad. Come in today for lunch or dinner!


I'm not seeing a happy hour, but it will be an authentic Italian dining experience. Yelp is only giving them 2.5 stars though. hmmmm. Snoody arse yelpers.
This post was edited on 8/3/12 at 9:58 am
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
12667 posts
Posted on 8/3/12 at 10:00 am to
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Might even be some fistfights!

bring peej and oweo
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
26233 posts
Posted on 8/3/12 at 10:05 am to
Hardlegging on the F&D board?
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 8/3/12 at 10:08 am to
What the hell happened here? It looks like the OT.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 8/3/12 at 10:44 am to
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Although it seems like I'm taking the "chain" side of things here, I really do agree with you guys that good local stuff is generally better than the chains. I think most of you have your hearts and principles in the right places.

However, with respect to Olive Garden it's rather interesting how things progressed. There are certainly Italian restaurants that I enjoy more than Olive Garden and I understand why you all do as well. The most interesting part though is that no one can really pinpoint WHY they think that X dish is better at their local place than it is at the OG.


Put them side by side and I'll tell you. Hard to really explain one's self as far as how food tastes via the internet unless I'm live blogging with a plate of OG food in front of me.

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A lot of ignorant assumptions about Olive Garden and other restaurants were essentially defeated (even with the help of MDT who is certainly no fan of chains)

Let's recap:

"Olive Garden Sucks because they don't make their own sauce" - Wrong. They make their own sauce. Even if not completely from scratch.


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A lot of ignorant assumptions about Olive Garden and other restaurants were essentially defeated (even with the help of MDT who is certainly no fan of chains)

Let's recap:

"Olive Garden Sucks because they don't make their own sauce" - Wrong. They make their own sauce. Even if not completely from scratch.

"Well it's not like they're making pasta with flour and eggs" - True, but neither or most of your local favorites, including some really good places that we can all agree are great (and better than OG for that matter)

"Well they might make their own sauce but they use frozen pre-cut vegetables!" - Yep, that myth was crushed too as they don't use pre-cut frozen vegetables.

"Well they might make their own vegetables but it's not like they're actually making fresh stocks" - Right, but as MDT pointed out, very few local places do this as well because it just isn't practical for most people.

So there are a couple of claims of why Olive Garden sucks that involve complete misunderstandings of what they do and don't do and the other ones that were correct were a wash with what the local guys do anyway.


I respond to all this thusly:

OG is not the worst transgressor out of the big chains. That would probably go to Applebee's. And I understand that local restaurants take the same shortcuts .. often times even more so .. than OG; hell I've seen Restaurant Impossible. It's clear that a lot of local business owners have absolutely no clue about how to prepare fresh food. Also, another thing I would imagine OG does better than local joints is the kitchen is probably cleaner .. large companies are more cognizant of the consequences of not meeting health board regulations, plus they send down from corporate guidelines and a streamlined plan that every location can go by.

Now, all that being said .. and I speak solely for myself here .. I don't eat at Olive Garden because my personal preference is to do one of two things when it comes to food (besides sandwiches and basic lunch plates while I'm working) .... I either 1) cook at home, or 2) go to a nicer restaurant where I know exactly what I'm getting; meaning - where the food is sourced and how it is prepared. I rarely eat at places that are trying to emulate fine dining while not charging those prices or not being as transparent as most upscale restaurants are.

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So in summary, I agree with all of you that there are much better Italian places than Olive Garden in metro areas where good food can be found. Curiously though, no one has actually come up with a legit reason as to why they think that X dish at Olive Garden isn't as good as X dish at some other place..


Not sure how exactly we're supposed to "prove" this to you via a message board.

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People know they like one over the other but they don't know why.


Not sure whom exactly we're talking about here. But you sit down a pasta dish from Olive Garden in front of me then bring me one from A Mano and I'll tell you exactly why I like one better than the other.

Maybe you're just referring to some people who jump on the chain-hating train because it's the new cool thing to do.

#foodiebandwagon
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
21922 posts
Posted on 8/3/12 at 10:48 am to
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Rohan2Reed

May I ask where you live?
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 8/3/12 at 10:50 am to
Nola
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30358 posts
Posted on 8/3/12 at 11:06 am to
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the worst transgressor out of the big chains. That would probably go to Applebee's.


What makes them the worst? Honest question.
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