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re: Brisket finished too early, what are my options?

Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by Masterag
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Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:37 pm to
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20 hours? Yeah, that was way too long.


Brisket generally cooks at 1.25-1.5 hrs per lb. on avg at my cooking range of 180-225. That would give me 15-18 hrs cook time plus resting.
Posted by calcotron
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Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:47 pm to
I have putt a butt in an ice chest at 2am and it had only gone down to 180 by lunch time. It'll be fine.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
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Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:52 pm to
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Any fabric is insulating


So are you claiming a towel will insulate the brisket and keep it warm for a decent length of time? Long enough for the brisket temperature to be warmer than the environmental temperature when you are ready to eat?
Posted by FAP SAM
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Posted on 7/4/22 at 2:10 pm to
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Long enough for the brisket temperature to be warmer than the environmental temperature when you are ready to eat

No one is saying use the towel alone. Obviously the ice chest is more important than the towel, but the towel does add insulation
Posted by Gnar Cat21
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Posted on 7/4/22 at 3:06 pm to
It’s really not that deep dude
Posted by lsuwins3
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Posted on 7/4/22 at 7:59 pm to
Typically it is wrapped in foil or butcher paper then wrapped in a towel. More as others have mentioned for handling and keeping any juices contained. Mine got to the desired temperature earlier than I planned but wrapped and put in ice chest for about 5 hours was too hot to work with and one of my best.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:30 am to
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but the towel does add insulation


So the 10 minutes of insulation the towel provides helps the meat stay hotter when you pull it out the ice chest 4 hours later than it would if you didn’t have those 10 minutes?

The heat transfer in the ice chest is going to be the same temperature whether a towel is there or not. All the towel does is delay it and the point is that it doesn’t delay it for any significant time for the towel to make sense in terms of insulating the brisket.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 11:32 am
Posted by Glock17
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:41 am to
I bet you're an absolute joy at parties
Posted by SixthAndBarone
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:54 am to
I’m quite fun. Sorry I soured your joy by trying to discuss food on a food board. I find the discussion quite interesting.
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 12:00 pm to
So...how was the brisket? Any pics?

I mean as interesting as this thread has been about flippin' towels...
Posted by Glock17
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 12:02 pm to
Here’s mine from yesterday: no ice chest and towel rest

Posted by t00f
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 12:07 pm to
I could be wrong but I think wrapping in a towel(s) reduced the process of moister evaperating, and keeping less air circulation from happening.

all that would allow the brisket to slighty continue to cook, which is why some pull at IT 195 with probe tender.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 12:10 pm to
I’ve learned other reasons from this thread for the towel. All make sense. Which answers my initial question. Seems like the towel provides other purposes and not to keep the brisket warm, which is what I’ve heard by many.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 12:13 pm to
Doesn't Chud recommend keeping cooked briskets at 160F in an oven until serving time?
Posted by Glock17
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 12:19 pm to
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Doesn't Chud recommend keeping cooked briskets at 160F in an oven until serving time?


He seems big in really long brisket rest time. I’d like to try it, but my oven doesn’t go below 170
Posted by MobileJosh
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 12:24 pm to
Are you really so fricking stupid that you don't think wrapping a towel around a brisket and placing it in an ice chest will hold heat better than just placing it in an ice chest? Because if you are that stupid, and didn't just post those 12 paragraphs of idiocy for attention, you should be barred from this board. What if I told you that 3 towels would hold even more heat. And 5 towels even more? You're the worst.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 12:27 pm to
I put mine in an electric smoker (no wood chips, just used it as an oven) and set it to 150 for 4 hours yesterday after it cooked and before I served. Kept it wrapped in butcher paper. Everything was good. No noticeable better or worse qualities.

I feel brisket cooking is severely overthought. But again, do whatever works for you.



Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 12:32 pm to
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Are you really so fricking stupid that you don't think wrapping a towel around a brisket and placing it in an ice chest will hold heat better than just placing it in an ice chest?


At some point, the air in the INSULATED ice chest will even out from the heat of the brisket. Towels aren’t notoriously known for insulation. At some point, the heat transfer will be completed.

My thought is a towel is only going to delay the heat transfer for a short amount of time. If you’re keeping the brisket in the ice chest for 5 hours, the heat transfer will be completed. If you’re keeping the brisket in for 1 hour, then maybe the towel will keep the brisket hotter than the air inside the ice chest.

But I’m so fricking stupid I don’t understand the food engineering classes I took in college. Just trying to have a discussion, bro. If you think a towel is going to keep your brisket 30 degrees hotter for 5 hours, go for it.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 12:39 pm to
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So the 10 minutes of insulation the towel provides h


So do you think blankets do nothing for keeping you warm at night?


This may be the dumbest thing I've seen posted on this board
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
10519 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 1:08 pm to
When you are sleeping at night, the environment (the air in your room) is constantly changing. Your a/c is running keeping it cool, the outside temperature of the night is affecting the air as well.

You do not sleep IN AN INSULATED BOX. You are not running an a/c inside an ice chest. You are not running a heater inside an ice chest.


Try to follow the science here...

An ice chest is an insulated box with a controlled environment. You are NOT introducing new air, or hot air, or cold air. The air in there is the air in there.

If you fill an insulated ice chest up with air that is 100 degrees, and close the lid, the air inside the ice chest is 100 degrees. Assume the air outside is less than 100 degrees.

Now if you open the lid 5 hours later, the air inside is now less than 100 degrees. Why? Because the heat transfer from the temperature inside the ice chest to the temperature of the environment outside the ice chest. But since the ice chest is insulated, the heat transfer took a long time and the environment inside the ice chest stayed warmer for a good length of time.

If you fill an ice chest up with ice, eventually, it will melt, right? Why? Because the heat transfer from the air outside and the cold air inside.

So if you put a hot brisket inside the ice chest, the brisket is going to heat the environment of the ice chest. Heat transfer will occur and heat from the brisket will warm the ice chest air. At some point, the environmental temperature inside the ice chest will even out. Meaning, the air inside the ice chest will NOT get any hotter. (This is when heat transfer from the environmental air outside of the ice chest will start to factor)

My entire point is that a towel is only going to slow this heat transfer down for a short length of time. An ice chest is insulated and designed for insulation. A towel is not. So if your goal is to keep a brisket inside an ice chest hot for longer than say 1 hour, let the ice chest's insulation work, not a freakin towel. Now if you want to serve the brisket in 30 minutes or maybe 1 hour, then yes, the towel can help keep it warmer. But if you're keeping the brisket in the ice chest for multiple hours, the temperature will not decrease by a significant amount because of a towel.


For you towel lovers



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