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Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:58 pm to
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:58 pm to
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There is no way that's a 20 gallon pot...or you didn't use 30 pounds of rice



Let the pissing contest begin...
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 6:59 pm
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 7:02 pm to
No pissing contest...he is not putting 30 pounds of rice, 65 pounds of meat, 20 pounds of onions and 6 gallons of water in a 20 gallon pot. I sincerely call bullshite.
Posted by doubletap
Prairieville, LA
Member since May 2013
609 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 7:40 pm to
I'll argue with you about the size of the pot after the game. Dutchtown is up 14-7. I need to enjoy this while it lasts. Lol
Posted by ynlvr
Rocket City
Member since Feb 2009
5550 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 7:46 pm to
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Dutchtown is up 14-7

Yes, they are. Great evening for high school football. And big pot jambalaya
Posted by doubletap
Prairieville, LA
Member since May 2013
609 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:34 pm to
quote:

he is not putting 30 pounds of rice, 65 pounds of meat, 20 pounds of onions and 6 gallons of water in a 20 gallon pot. I sincerely call bullshite.


Alright smartass (no pun intended),

Let's talk about this pot.

It was given to me along with several others about 10 years by my FIL. It is about 40 years old and it has no discernable markings on it. He told me it is a 20 gallon pot so that is what I am going by. I have not verified the capacity with water.

One of the other pots he gave me has a 15 stamped on it. I have verified the capacity of that pot and it only holds 13.8 gallons of water. I have cooked 20 pounds of rice using my recipe many many times in that pot.

My rule of thumb for determining pot size is pot capacity x 1.5 = max rice. 13.8 x 1.5 = 20.7 pounds of rice. Given that formula and using the same ratios, why is it so hard to believe that 30 pounds of rice will fit into a 20 gallon pot?
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
10194 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:50 pm to
When I put your numbers for rice and meat into the jambalaya calculator at 100% fill level, it calculated that you needed a 23 gallon minimum pot size.

Since you haven't measured it, my money is on your pot being a 25 gallon, not a 20. I'd love it if you could test it, because if the calculator is off, I'd like to know about it. Others have told me in the past that the calculations were spot on.
Posted by Mad Dogg
LA
Member since Sep 2016
4187 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:52 pm to
What's the score now?
Posted by Btrtigerfan
Disgruntled employee
Member since Dec 2007
24005 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 10:19 pm to
quote:

.he is not putting 30 pounds of rice, 65 pounds of meat, 20 pounds of onions and 6 gallons of water in a 20 gallon pot. I sincerely call bullshite.




Craving a chili pie and a cherry Coke. Which Sonic?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 10:24 pm to
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Since you haven't measured it, my money is on your pot being a 25 gallon, not a 20. I'd love it if you could test it, because if the calculator is off, I'd like to know about it. Others have told me in the past that the calculations were spot on.

Posted by doubletap
Prairieville, LA
Member since May 2013
609 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 10:56 pm to
Rat,

How did you come up with those capacities anyway? How does it account for things cooking down? I'm pretty sure 45 pounds of raw temple doesn't weigh 45 pounds after it cooks for an hour and 20 pounds of onions weighs next to nothing after it cooks for an hour.
This post was edited on 11/18/17 at 9:14 am
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82743 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 1:48 am to
I've cooked well over 100 batches of jambo in a 20 gallon pot(I have two 20 gallon pots) and I can tell you 25 pounds of rice with 60 pounds of meat is about the upper limit.

Not trying to come across as a jackass or anything, but I think you have something larger than a 20 gallon pot
This post was edited on 11/18/17 at 2:10 am
Posted by doubletap
Prairieville, LA
Member since May 2013
609 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 7:18 am to
It may be bigger than 20, but if it is I don't think it's by much. I've cooked in what I was told were 30 gallon pots and this pot is way closer in size to my 15 gallon pot than those 30 gallon pots.

Have you verified your 20 gallon pot to see if it actually holds 20 gallons of water? Maybe it's smaller.



Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
10194 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 8:24 am to
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How did you come up with those capacities anyway? How does it account for things cooling down? I'm pretty sure 45 pounds of raw temple doesn't weigh 45 pounds after it cooks for an hour and 20 pounds of onions weighs next to nothing after it cooks for an hour.
Agreed on both counts.

I did some research and found that most raw meat loses 35-40% of its weight during cooking - pretty close to 38% average. See this BBQ Caterer's Worksheet.. But I really needed to know the volume change, though, so I did my own experiment.

I measured the volume of a known weight of cubed pork shoulder before cooking. (I also tried it with supermarket sausage.) This is a little more complicated than you might think, because of the spaces of air that's mixed in with the meat when you try to measure the volume.

So what I did was add the meat to the measuring cup, and then add water up to the top of the meat. Noted the volume of that mixture and then pour off the water, measure the volume of that and subtract that from the previous volume measured. So now I have the volume of the raw meat.

I then cooked the meat fully, then used the same procedure to measure the volume of the cooked meat.

I found that the volume lost was about the same as the weight lost - between 35% and 40%.

Now, as for the vegetables, I assumed their cooked volume reduced to zero. I know they still have some volume, but it is negligible.

So, I knew that rice triples in volume and meat decreases in volume to 62% of previous volume. The rest is just math and Excel.

Cured or smoked meats have already lost some moisture, but I ignored that for purposes of the calculator. Tasso, for example may have lost all it's moisture so it's not going to shrink much at all.
This post was edited on 3/25/18 at 12:49 pm
Posted by Dorothy
Munchkinland
Member since Oct 2008
18154 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 8:50 am to
I think I just found my kid's next science fair project...plus a big pot of jambalaya would surely win points with the judges.
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
7159 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:16 am to
You can't lead your post titled as Pictorial and then not know what size pot you are even using. How you gonna write a recipe and teach people when you don't know yourself? That is bigger than 20 gallons or it wouldn't fit.
Get some thicker skin.

For a non rude comment about the method- little heavy on the oil but you skimmed it and it does look pretty good.
Posted by doubletap
Prairieville, LA
Member since May 2013
609 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:20 am to
Damn Rat. The only thing missing from that explaination is a reference to Archimedes Principle of Displacement. Nice work!
Posted by Cajunate
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
3534 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:23 am to


Nicely done! If it works for you then it works. Looks tasty!!!!!
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
10194 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:27 am to
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Damn Rat. The only thing missing from that explaination is a reference to Archimedes Principle of Displacement. Nice work!
This post was edited on 11/18/17 at 10:30 am
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49661 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:36 am to
This is an entertaining thread.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 10:38 am to
Looks damn good. F the haters
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