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re: Best type of roast for nola style poboys...

Posted on 6/17/16 at 9:28 am to
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 6/17/16 at 9:28 am to
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Does it have that cool iridescent sheen that Manda's gets?


what the hell is that anyway?
I've seen it on home cooked meat. It's nothing to worry about.

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deli sliced roast beef makes me want to hurl just smelling it

Posted by andouille
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Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 6/17/16 at 9:31 am to
Manda's is terrible to me, but just so you know, that iridescent sheen comes from being sliced with a fast spinning blade, a meat slicer, instead of a knife. I get the same sheen on beef or ham I use my electric slicer on.

Posted by LSU Wayne
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Posted on 6/17/16 at 9:39 am to
I use a rump roast.

I get a roasting pot big enough to hold the roast. First add some pats of butter with a little oil and mix some flour. On top of that I add sliced onion, bell pepper, whatever. Season the roast liberally. Place the roast on top of the vegetables in the pot.

I roast this on 425 for about 20-30 minutes to brown the roast and allow a bit of a roux to form on the bottom. At that point, I add water (sometimes some beef broth) and blend with the roux/veggies. I reduce the heat to 300, cover the pot and slow roast for at least 3 more hours.

This is easy and comes out great every time.
Posted by unclebuck504
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/17/16 at 9:56 am to
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nola style poboys


... only style there is.

Nothing else deserves to be labeled a po-boy.
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 6/17/16 at 10:00 am to
But Darrell's
Posted by logjamming
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Posted on 6/17/16 at 10:02 am to
quote:

Does it have that cool iridescent sheen that Manda's gets?



That's where all the flavor comes from.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
111671 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 10:09 am to
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Manda's is terrible to me, but just so you know, that iridescent sheen comes from being sliced with a fast spinning blade, a meat slicer, instead of a knife. I get the same sheen on beef or ham I use my electric slicer on.


I've seen it on some other deli sliced meats, but it ALWAYS seems to be on Manda's roast beef. I was just curious as to why that is. This can't be the full answer because they are all sliced on an electric slicer and don't all produce that.

It's not the principal reason I don't like their product (that would be that it's just generally nasty -- off seasonings, overcooked, bad texture). So the sheen is not my chief "concern". It's just seemingly always there.

Deli sliced roast beef really has no place on a poboy.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79888 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 10:26 am to
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I saw that decided I never needed to try their poboy.



Solid move. I hope you never try it.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 6/17/16 at 10:30 am to
tl;dr

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It’s because of the particular way light bounces off the surface of the deli meat, a phenomenon known as “diffraction.” A piece of meat is composed of strands of fibers that are tightly packed together in parallel bundles. After meat is sliced, the cut ends of the fibers form a series of grooves, like the top of a picket fence. White light is composed of a spectrum of different colors, and each one of those colors has a specific wavelength. When white light hits the grooves on the surface of a deli meat slice, some of the light is absorbed and some of it is reflected. Each component color wave of the reflected light bends at a different angle depending on its particular frequency. The result of this spread of color waves is a kaleidoscope or iridescent effect, similar to the colors we see in soap bubbles, CDs, and fish scales.

Diffraction depends on the grooves being structurally intact and perfectly aligned. This is why you’re much more likely to see this rainbow effect on processed deli meat that’s cooked and/or cured than on raw meat. The former has a firmer, tougher texture and the picket fence structure keeps its shape well when deli meats are sliced. Raw meat, on the other hand, is softer and more delicate, and the ends of the meat fibers are easily damaged when the meat is cut, which means that light is reflected in a haphazard way that doesn’t result in rainbows.

So why do some deli meats shimmer while others remain dull? The color of the meat matters. Dark cooked meat like roast beef and bright cured meat like ham are more likely to show iridescence because the background colors provide a starker contrast to the pearly greens and orangey reds that you’re most likely to see coming off of shiny meats. Turkey and chicken are too pale to showcase such sparkle. It also matters whether the deli product contains ground or “restructured” meat (in which chopped meat is molded together) or is comprised of a single piece of muscle. In the former case, the jumbled up meat fibers are no longer aligned correctly to diffract light.

The way a joint of meat is sliced at the deli counter or before being pre-packaged is also paramount. Only cuts that are sliced against the grain, or perpendicular to the direction of the meat fibers, show iridescence, since the protruding severed ends of the fibers produce the fine grooves.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/17/16 at 10:35 am to
I get the notion that this can occur and why that is.

Still doesn't explain why it always seems to be on Manda's, but not others.
Posted by Sailorjerry
Lafitte
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 6/17/16 at 10:42 am to
definitely a rump!!!!!!!
Posted by JasonL79
Houston area
Member since Jan 2010
6425 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 10:57 am to
quote:

yeah boiling, and added no seasoning at all until they added the gravy at the end. I saw that decided I never needed to try their poboy.


I've tried it their way and it still comes out good. There may be better methods but in no way does their method come out bad.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 6/17/16 at 11:41 am to
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Still doesn't explain why it always seems to be on Manda's
Because of the consistent high quality.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 6/17/16 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

Seems like every roast I cook slow has enough fluid



Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 6/17/16 at 5:08 pm to
dat looks awesome !
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