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Posted on 5/1/11 at 11:47 pm to TigerStripes06
I don't worry too much unless Morganza has to be opened...
Posted on 5/2/11 at 12:06 am to lsusteve1
The Bonnet Carre will be open first then if needed the Morganza Spillway will be opened. Opening the Morganza Spillway will become very political. That water will destoy farm land and will eventually make its way to the Atchafalay River which will increase its levels thus threatening Morgan City.
You can bank on the BC spillway being opened sometime next week. Morganza will be opened only if Baton Rouge is threatened.
You can bank on the BC spillway being opened sometime next week. Morganza will be opened only if Baton Rouge is threatened.
Posted on 5/2/11 at 2:41 am to Geauxtiga
It was just a lame attempt at humor, GT.
You said "in depth" on a thread about flooding, so I responded with an "I see what you did there."
My sense of humor is sometimes kinda warped.
You said "in depth" on a thread about flooding, so I responded with an "I see what you did there."
My sense of humor is sometimes kinda warped.
Posted on 5/2/11 at 2:53 am to ScottieP
quote:
Opening the Morganza Spillway will become very political. That water will destoy farm land
It doesn't get more political than activating the Bird Point - New Madrid Floodway which was used once in 1937. That is some of the most fertile farmland in the Mississippi River delta.
That water must pass through Louisiana so get ready for it.
Posted on 5/2/11 at 3:07 am to RhodeIslandRed
i feel pretty safe in the capital city. Im sure all will be done to protect baton rouge and new orleans
Posted on 5/2/11 at 8:20 am to heartbreakTiger
Probably a dumb question, but why wouldn't they let some more water come into Bayou Lafourche. They are already talking about doing it in the future. Wouldn't this help relieve some of the H2O?
Posted on 5/2/11 at 8:31 am to RhodeIslandRed
quote:
It doesn't get more political than activating the Bird Point - New Madrid Floodway which was used once in 1937. That is some of the most fertile farmland in the Mississippi River delta.
Apparently all the Arkansas side levees are now closed to the public. With the Arkansas, White, Black, and other rivers being so high and backed up my guess is that we will get the first breach on the Arkansas side if it gets to that point. Look at the estimates for yesterdays precipitation for Arkansas and it gets pretty scary.
Posted on 5/2/11 at 8:42 am to Geauxtiga
238AM CDT Sun May 1 2011
*** CORRECTED FORECAST FOR PAHDUCAH AND CAIRO ****
PROJ FLOW TDA D1 D2 D3 D4 D5
BARKLEY DAM 60 60 60 60 60 60
KENTUCKY DAM 129 147 148 147 141 136
ADVISORY D1 D2
PADUCAH 2.0 2.1
CAIRO 0.5 0.9
RIVER STAGE FORECASTS (A)BV
STATION FS 1AM 06HR ....F O R E C A S T..... (B)LO
STG CHG 0502 0503 0504 0505 0506 CREST/DATE FS
OHIO RIVER
SMITHLAND TW 40 52.1 +0.5 52.3 52.7 53.0 53.0 52.9 53.0 05/04A
PADUCAH 39 52.9 +0.5 53.4 53.8 54.0 54.0 53.9 54.0 05/04A
BROOKPORT 37 55.0 +0.7 55.2 55.6 56.0 56.0 56.0 56.0 05/04A
GRAND CHAIN 42 60.9 +0.5 61.1 61.6 62.0 62.0 62.0 62.0 05/04A
CAIRO 40 60.6 +0.4 61.0 61.4 61.5 61.5 61.5 61.5 05/04A
*** PREPARATIONS BEING MADE TO BLOW UP LEVEE AT BIRDS POINT TO OPEN NEW MADRID FLOODWAY PERHAPS 5/2 AFTERNOON ***
MISSISSIPPI RIVER
CAPE GIRARDEAU 32 45.9 +0.6 45.6 45.5 45.3 44.9 44.5 Cresting
THEBES 33 44.7 +0.2 44.4 44.4 44.3 44.0 43.8 Cresting
NEW MADRID 34 45.7 +0.1 46.0 46.9 47.5 48.0 48.0 48.0 05/05A
TIPTONVILLE 37 46.9 0.0 47.4 48.2 48.9 49.5 50.0 50.0 05/06A
CARUTHERSVILLE 32 44.6 0.0 45.2 45.9 46.5 47.0 47.5 48.0 05/07A
OSCEOLA 28 42.2 +0.2 42.4 42.7 43.3 43.8 44.3 45.5 05/08A
MEMPHIS 34 41.7 +0.2 41.9 42.7 43.4 43.6 43.9 45.0 05/10A
HELENA 44 49.0 +0.3 49.1 49.5 50.0 50.5 51.0 52.5 05/12A
ARKANSAS CITY 37 41.6 +0.3 41.8 42.8 43.6 44.0 44.3 48.5 05/14A
GREENVILLE 48 52.6 +0.2 53.1 54.1 55.0 55.8 56.1 60.0 05/15A
VICKSBURG 43 44.8 +0.3 45.4 46.5 47.6 48.4 49.3 53.5 05/18A
NATCHEZ 48 50.0 +0.2 50.3 51.0 52.3 53.3 54.3 60.0 05/20A
RED RIVER LNDG 48 51.1 +0.3 51.2 52.0 52.8 53.9 54.8 62.0 05/21A
BATON ROUGE 35 33.5E MSG 33.8 34.5 35.2 36.2 37.0 44.5 05/21P A.05/03P
DONALDSONVILLE 27 23.8 +0.2 24.0 24.4 25.0 25.7 26.5 33.5 05/21P A.05/06P
RESERVE 22 18.3 +0.1 18.4 18.8 19.2 19.7 20.3 25.0 05/22A A.05/13A
NEW ORLEANS /17/ 13.2 +0.0 13.3 13.8 14.0 14.4 14.8 17.0 05/22A
/ /LEVEES PROTECT CITY OF NEW ORLEANS TO 20 FT STAGE.
ALL STAGE FORECASTS INCLUDE 24 HOURS OF FUTURE RAINFALL.
*** CORRECTED FORECAST FOR PAHDUCAH AND CAIRO ****
PROJ FLOW TDA D1 D2 D3 D4 D5
BARKLEY DAM 60 60 60 60 60 60
KENTUCKY DAM 129 147 148 147 141 136
ADVISORY D1 D2
PADUCAH 2.0 2.1
CAIRO 0.5 0.9
RIVER STAGE FORECASTS (A)BV
STATION FS 1AM 06HR ....F O R E C A S T..... (B)LO
STG CHG 0502 0503 0504 0505 0506 CREST/DATE FS
OHIO RIVER
SMITHLAND TW 40 52.1 +0.5 52.3 52.7 53.0 53.0 52.9 53.0 05/04A
PADUCAH 39 52.9 +0.5 53.4 53.8 54.0 54.0 53.9 54.0 05/04A
BROOKPORT 37 55.0 +0.7 55.2 55.6 56.0 56.0 56.0 56.0 05/04A
GRAND CHAIN 42 60.9 +0.5 61.1 61.6 62.0 62.0 62.0 62.0 05/04A
CAIRO 40 60.6 +0.4 61.0 61.4 61.5 61.5 61.5 61.5 05/04A
*** PREPARATIONS BEING MADE TO BLOW UP LEVEE AT BIRDS POINT TO OPEN NEW MADRID FLOODWAY PERHAPS 5/2 AFTERNOON ***
MISSISSIPPI RIVER
CAPE GIRARDEAU 32 45.9 +0.6 45.6 45.5 45.3 44.9 44.5 Cresting
THEBES 33 44.7 +0.2 44.4 44.4 44.3 44.0 43.8 Cresting
NEW MADRID 34 45.7 +0.1 46.0 46.9 47.5 48.0 48.0 48.0 05/05A
TIPTONVILLE 37 46.9 0.0 47.4 48.2 48.9 49.5 50.0 50.0 05/06A
CARUTHERSVILLE 32 44.6 0.0 45.2 45.9 46.5 47.0 47.5 48.0 05/07A
OSCEOLA 28 42.2 +0.2 42.4 42.7 43.3 43.8 44.3 45.5 05/08A
MEMPHIS 34 41.7 +0.2 41.9 42.7 43.4 43.6 43.9 45.0 05/10A
HELENA 44 49.0 +0.3 49.1 49.5 50.0 50.5 51.0 52.5 05/12A
ARKANSAS CITY 37 41.6 +0.3 41.8 42.8 43.6 44.0 44.3 48.5 05/14A
GREENVILLE 48 52.6 +0.2 53.1 54.1 55.0 55.8 56.1 60.0 05/15A
VICKSBURG 43 44.8 +0.3 45.4 46.5 47.6 48.4 49.3 53.5 05/18A
NATCHEZ 48 50.0 +0.2 50.3 51.0 52.3 53.3 54.3 60.0 05/20A
RED RIVER LNDG 48 51.1 +0.3 51.2 52.0 52.8 53.9 54.8 62.0 05/21A
BATON ROUGE 35 33.5E MSG 33.8 34.5 35.2 36.2 37.0 44.5 05/21P A.05/03P
DONALDSONVILLE 27 23.8 +0.2 24.0 24.4 25.0 25.7 26.5 33.5 05/21P A.05/06P
RESERVE 22 18.3 +0.1 18.4 18.8 19.2 19.7 20.3 25.0 05/22A A.05/13A
NEW ORLEANS /17/ 13.2 +0.0 13.3 13.8 14.0 14.4 14.8 17.0 05/22A
/ /LEVEES PROTECT CITY OF NEW ORLEANS TO 20 FT STAGE.
ALL STAGE FORECASTS INCLUDE 24 HOURS OF FUTURE RAINFALL.
Posted on 5/2/11 at 8:45 am to TheWiz
quote:they are going to blow up a 2 mile wide section of levee in Illinois
twin barges laden with more than 250 tons of explosive material were ordered to dock at a final staging area on Saturday in an apparent sign that the Army Corps of Engineers was making further preparations to breach a nearby levee, inundating roughly 130,000 acres of Missouri farmland to relieve pressure on the groaning levee system upstream.
Posted on 5/2/11 at 8:47 am to meauxjeaux2
quote:
they are going to blow up a 2 mile wide section of levee in Illinois
I hope someone has a video camera watching this because it is going to be quite a sight. Unfortunately this is going to do a lot of damage and a lot of people are going to lose their homes and possessions due to it.
Posted on 5/2/11 at 8:48 am to Geauxtiga
Trying to follow the water if Morganza is opened. I'm only a little familiar with that area. How does the water cross hwy 10 east of Melville. I've never been there. It is raised like 190?
Posted on 5/2/11 at 8:48 am to Geauxtiga
go ask advice from the folks at Bayou Pigeon and Sorrell, they have water in their homes at least twice a year ....
Posted on 5/2/11 at 9:34 am to Rebel
In all seriousness...I was moving to a condo about a half mile from that flooded school at the end of the month in east Memphis. Landlord said that my place will probably flood if it gets any higher.
This post was edited on 5/2/11 at 9:53 am
Posted on 5/2/11 at 9:50 am to AlxTgr
There is a guide levee west of Melville (east of Port Barre and Palmetto...it may be visible on Google Maps) . Flood waters will only fill that floodplain in the worst of situations....by topping or breaking of the levee immediately west of the Atch. River. The secondary floodplain is called the West Atchafalaya. Simmsport, Melville, and Krot Springs are in
that floodway, but I am pretty sure there are ring levees around those towns.
that floodway, but I am pretty sure there are ring levees around those towns.
Posted on 5/2/11 at 10:55 am to uzzy
quote:The path I'm looking at on the DOTD map is all East of the Atch River. It shows the levees and the spillway. Looks like hwy 10 is dead in the path.
There is a guide levee west of Melville (east of Port Barre and Palmetto...it may be visible on Google Maps) . Flood waters will only fill that floodplain in the worst of situations....by topping or breaking of the levee immediately west of the Atch. River. The secondary floodplain is called the West Atchafalaya. Simmsport, Melville, and Krot Springs are in
Posted on 5/2/11 at 10:56 am to RhodeIslandRed
quote:
Bird Point - New Madrid Floodway
I'm looking at that in Google Earth right now. There's quite a bit of non-elevated homes in that floodway. Whose bright idea was is to build a home in a floodway and who approved something like that? News outlets are reporting that the pipes are being filled as I type this. SOURCE
Posted on 5/2/11 at 11:00 am to Grilled Bald Eagle
It would break my heart to see LSU go...
Posted on 5/2/11 at 11:05 am to CootKilla
quote:
Probably a dumb question, but why wouldn't they let some more water come into Bayou Lafourche. They are already talking about doing it in the future. Wouldn't this help relieve some of the H2O?
Opening B Lafourche would be like taking a gallon of water out of a swimming pool.
B Lafourche can handle maybe 10000cfs, wide open. The Mississippi is flowing at 1 million right now.
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