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Posted on 5/9/11 at 4:43 pm to
Posted by Fishwater
Carcosa
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 5/9/11 at 4:43 pm to
according to the FEMA conference call this afternoon:

the trigger point for Morganza is when Red River Landing hits 1.25kfps.

everything else was pretty much news we already know.
Posted by HeadBusta4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
11364 posts
Posted on 5/9/11 at 4:44 pm to
from those pictures by the vet school I dont see how the river would not top the levee by May 22nd
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 5/9/11 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

River width, depth and contour have nothing to do with the different flows. There are areas along the river between Red River Landing and Natchez where water goes into storage. Basically the water leaves the channel and enters an area with little to no downstream flow. This causes the downstream flow to decrease. There is also an area between RRL and Baton Rouge that puts 50kcfs to 100kcfs into storage. So the flow at BR will be slightly less than at RRL.



ScottieP posted this awhile back and it got me thinking. Right now Arkansas City is supposed to crest at 3200 kcfs on 5/15. On 5/19 its supposed to crest in the neighborhood of 2400 kcfs in Vicksburg. That's a difference of nearly 800 kcfs (on average), for almost a week. That's a hell of a lot of storage. The project flood called for only 180 kcfs difference between the two points. To give an idea of the volume of storage, it'd be in the neighborhood of about 2.5 times the size of Lake Pontchartrain. Maybe I'm missing something, but I feel like something's not accounted for there. I'm hoping someone with more info on the Corps' modeling/ knowledge of the river can give some detail here. I arrived at the number by subtracting the flows on the same days, to arrive at a difference, then converted to cubic feet vs. the average volume of Lake Pontchartrain. I forgot how good excel is with hydrology
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74268 posts
Posted on 5/9/11 at 5:07 pm to


Shouldn't laugh, but that guy really wanted to save those hunting trophies/
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
18051 posts
Posted on 5/9/11 at 5:09 pm to
quote:

1.25kfps

You sure about that unit?
Posted by ADLSUNSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
3518 posts
Posted on 5/9/11 at 5:15 pm to
sorry to ask if it s been posted but i have been keeping up and didnt see anything.

Earlier people were talking about St francisville getting a bunch of flood water, which conflicted with some other thoughts. Does anyone know what the projection / reason for flooding would be. Someone mentioned backed up tributaries
Posted by Skooter
Member since Jun 2008
2257 posts
Posted on 5/9/11 at 5:18 pm to
quote:

so the river is predicted to get approximately 7' higher in the next 13 days...does that look like less than 7' to anyone else?

eta: 7' between top of the levee and the river


Pictures for some reason are deceptive. Don't get me wrong, the water is high. But the camera doesn't really show how much space is between the top and the water. It's more than 7'. I've been taking pictures there since last Monday. Crazy how fast this thing is coming up
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91527 posts
Posted on 5/9/11 at 5:21 pm to
ha i know i know. some things you just cant let go!
Posted by aldawg2323
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2010
494 posts
Posted on 5/9/11 at 5:23 pm to
Do you think usgs disabled the discharge readings here on purpose? Showing no flows north of BR...
This post was edited on 5/9/11 at 5:53 pm
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 5/9/11 at 5:23 pm to
quote:

1.25kfps


It blew through that Friday. LINK
Posted by TheoreticalTiger
Big 10 Football sucks!!!
Member since Sep 2010
2698 posts
Posted on 5/9/11 at 5:25 pm to
I sometimes wonder what the animals are thinking? Are they like wtf??
Posted by LSUinmyDNA
Somewhere Over The Rainbow
Member since Oct 2009
429 posts
Posted on 5/9/11 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

I sometimes wonder what the animals are thinking? Are they like wtf??


There are some great pictures taken from a helicopter or plane at the NatchezDemocrat.com showing deer running through the flood waters I assume looking for higher ground
Posted by bolo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
323 posts
Posted on 5/9/11 at 5:36 pm to
Does anyone know the the approximate level of the levees around Lexington Estates and UC Club in EBR? Should these neighborhoods be concerned?
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
18051 posts
Posted on 5/9/11 at 5:40 pm to
quote:

1.25kfps




It blew through that Friday. LINK


Yeah..... FLOW is in cfs. The unit he listed was fps. I don't think the water is moving at a velocity of 1,250 feet per second.
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
5067 posts
Posted on 5/9/11 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

Pictures for some reason are deceptive. Don't get me wrong, the water is high. But the camera doesn't really show how much space is between the top and the water. It's more than 7'. I've been taking pictures there since last Monday. Crazy how fast this thing is coming up


Yeah, today I went to look at the river. I took my shoes off and stood in the very edge of the water. I'm a little less than 6 ft, and the top of the levee was way above my head. I would say at least 9 ft. left to give.
Posted by tigers84
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2008
2784 posts
Posted on 5/9/11 at 6:10 pm to
Corps: LSU and other areas South of Baton Rouge at risk if Morganza spillway remains closed.
LINK
Posted by missloutiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2008
1133 posts
Posted on 5/9/11 at 6:13 pm to
Riding around in my buddies boat north of Natchez in Annas Bottom Saturday we saw literally hundreds of deer pigs snakes and gators.
Posted by tetu
Ascension Parish
Member since Jan 2011
12269 posts
Posted on 5/9/11 at 6:16 pm to
Update of the pic I took across from Farr Park/Beau Pre Townhomes

May 4th:

May 9th:


There was a noticeable difference. You can see they moved the office trailer and there is a crane behind the trees at the barges moving something around.

Saw some old guy fishing with his family. He said they did alot better yesterday, only got one goo today.


There were also sandbags on the backside of the levee right across from Farr Park. Not sure what for exactly. I guess the levee is letting some water through? Anybody know whats going on?

I used to live near here and within the last year they did what looked like utility work. Maybe they didn't build it back up to specs?

This post was edited on 5/9/11 at 6:26 pm
Posted by LSUzealot
Napoleon and Magazine
Member since Sep 2003
57656 posts
Posted on 5/9/11 at 6:18 pm to
Can an admin put some actual relevant info in the first post without having to click a million links?

I think a good start would be a BR/NO crest date and height along with what the city can safely hold without flooding.

Ie. Baton Rouge may 22nd crest 47.5 feet levee of 52.5 feet. Etc
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
118277 posts
Posted on 5/9/11 at 6:31 pm to
quote:

levee of 52.5 feet


I think it is 48ft.
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