re: I'm being offered Mike Evans for Greg Zuerlien lol, should I?

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This brings back to the argument about position scarcity. Because, I bet most teams in most leagues start a top 10 QB, top 10 TE, and top 10 K most weeks. Why? because you only start one of those and people don't generally hold on to ones that drop far outside that range - this isn't true for RB/WR.

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Fine, let’s assume you start Evans in place of WR30. The point differential is still 12.2 - 9.7 = 2.5 ppg. That’s only 60% of the difference between Zuerlien and the avg starting kicker in 10 team league. My point still stands

Majority. Did you read that? Go count posts if you need to

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Fine, let’s assume you start Evans in place of WR30. The point differential is still 12.2 - 9.7 = 2.5 ppg. That’s only 60% of the difference between Zuerlien and the avg starting kicker in 10 team league. My point still stands

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This thread is amazing fwiw.

Alright so you're talking about trading a K who, using your numbers is a 3.2 ppg advantage, for a guy who is 2.5ppg advantage (again using your numbers)

So that's a difference of 0.7ppg

But you're also spouting off weekly averages and not factoring in at all things like Evans being able to fill for byes, or now getting to choose between multiple good options at FLEX and playing matchups, protecting injuries, etc. Not to mention the much likelier possibility that a WR or RB will go off and win you a week (not saying it can't happen with a K but it's much less likely).

So basically you're saying that because of the theoretical 0.7ppg you're losing, don't trade a guy at a position where you can find a fine replacement in free agency every week.

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Fine, let’s assume you start Evans in place of WR30.

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But your typical team is not going to have a WR30 in their flex. The couple of teams at the top might have this, but not your typical team.

For example, my opponent this week in one league is starting the 80th ranked player in their flex. That's 80th at their position based on season stats.

Btw, his kicker just happens to be GZ.

He's starting The Drake.

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basically you're saying that because of the theoretical 0.7ppg you're losing, don't trade a guy at a position where you can find a fine replacement in free agency every week

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This is the last set of bye weeks. That’s not a real factor now. Injuries possibly, but loading up you bench only helps if you predict matchups correctly or the injuries happen. FWIW, the 0.7 is based on comparing GZ to Forbath (#3 rank). The average for the top 10 is more reasonable comparison, and it’s 4 PPG difference

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FWIW, I picked up a "replacement-level" kicker with Gostowski on bye this past week and got 12 points....so

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Fantastic comparison. A single, random event vs averages across a season

Ok but here's the thing. And I'm going to preface this with saying that I didn't go back and fact check this, but I'm fairly confident that what I'm saying is accurate...

MOST of the time, the K that you start will end up at or near the top 10, let's say top 15, each week. So basically, unless there's some crazy fluke or you mess up real bad, you're getting near top 10 production from the K that you start every week.

That is not true at all from WRs or RBs. You could have the #1WR in the league, but he probably finishes outside the top 10 a lot based on the week. Hell, he probably finishes outside the top 30 in multiple weeks. And maybe on the season, the difference between a top 10 WR and the #30 WR isn't huge, but I bet the difference between the #10 and #30WR in a week is massive.

So, I get rid of my #1K and oh well, now I'm probably getting like an average of #8-10 value from my K EVERY WEEK consistently.

I get rid of my WR1 and replace him with a FLEX level (even assuming that's #30) and I can't count on consistency there. I have to play the right matchup, maybe pick up and drop guys to waivers a bunch to pick the right guy. If I had my WR1 (Evans) I can play him with confidence every week and feel good about my chances of him being that top 10 guy and giving me a huge advantage over if I started a guy projected to be the #30 guy. I take that upside every time no questions asked.

I hope I explained that well...might have rambled a bit lol

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You specifically mentioned Evans' "0 burger" ( a half of football, mind you) as cause for concern moving forward Pretty sure that qualifies as a "single, random event" But, yes, carry on

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Did I say that was any indication of a season average?

Evans ceiling>>>Gregs ceiling