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re: FSBDL Redd Rankings

Posted on 2/12/15 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 12:53 pm to
Stop being such a yat G.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:06 pm to
someone tell me if im off here.

Out of our 12 scoring categories, IP is the only one that doesn't promote having successful players. Im just trying to understand how it falls in line with everything else we decided on.
Posted by reddman
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:09 pm to
It doesn't. We just drew a category out of a hat and tried to slip it by everyone without them noticing.

2/20 ain't bad.
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:10 pm to
For the record, I voted for no-hitters as that last stat.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:12 pm to
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IP is the only one that doesn't promote having successful players


I'm fairly certain that when you pitch someone it will also affect K/9, WHIP and ERA

Weak troll attempt, I give it a 4/10
Posted by barry
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:13 pm to
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For the record, I voted for no-hitters as that last stat.


I lost a matchup one time in my friends retarded points league because a no hitter was worth 70 points.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:14 pm to
so is there a non smartass answer or what?

I never said anyone tried to slip it by me. I just think that had it been talked about, we might have came up with a better end result as a group.
Posted by TTownTiger
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:17 pm to
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I'm fairly certain that when you pitch someone it will also affect K/9, WHIP and ERA


That's what I was thinking. Steals probably has less of an affect on the other hitting categories than IP does for the pitching ones.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

I'm fairly certain that when you pitch someone it will also affect K/9, WHIP and ERA

Weak troll attempt, I give it a 4/10



It's a serious question, not a troll.


Those are all separate entities.

You can take any category separately, and say "I need a successful player in order to win this category". All other 11 categories fall under this. We even go to the point to subtract points for caught stealing.


IP is neutral at best. No team with a successful pitching week is going to chase IPs. But all the teams with shitty weeks surely will.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:20 pm to
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I just think that had it been talked about, we might have came up with a better end result as a group.


Why would we think it needed to be talked about, if people had a problem they would have said something.

Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

so is there a non smartass answer or what?


Well, saying that "IP is the only one that doesn't promote having successful players" is befuddling. Innings = outs = success.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:21 pm to
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IP is neutral at best. No team with a successful pitching week is going to chase IPs. But all the teams with shitty weeks surely will.


We spoke our word on why its a category. Discussion is over. Sorry.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:27 pm to
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Why would we think it needed to be talked about, if people had a problem they would have said something.


This is a great way to run things

You should've set up the whole league without input
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:29 pm to
It's not as simple as getting outs.

If you have 50IP on the week, with a 5.50 ERA and lose every other pitching category except IP, is that successful? Because your team got 150 outs in a vacuum

No need for QS if all we're worried about is getting outs
Posted by reddman
Member since Jul 2005
78195 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:31 pm to
Are you serious? 5 agreed that it was the best policy and put it in. It was then proposed to the league. Not one person had an issue with it. Nobody even questioned it. It was right there on the first post for all to see. Get over it. Both of you.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:31 pm to
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You should've set up the whole league without input


We had 25% of the league in the rules committee then we gave everyone ample oppurtunity to review the constitution. We aren't gonna hold everyones hands and go line by line with 20 people over the whole damn document.

Posted by rondo
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

This is a great way to run things

You should've set up the whole league without input



I am not upset....at all G.

I want you to explain what you would like to happen in a perfect world.

Just curious

TBM were given every opportunity to know the rules before the draft and chose to assume they knew them.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

It's not as simple as getting outs.

If you have 50IP on the week, with a 5.50 ERA and lose every other pitching category except IP, is that successful? Because your team got 150 outs in a vacuum

No need for QS if all we're worried about is getting outs


The discussion is over. Let it die.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

It's not as simple as getting outs.

Sure it is.

quote:

If you have 50IP on the week, with a 5.50 ERA and lose every other pitching category except IP, is that successful?

Well, you would be successful at winning IP. Just like a team full of speedsters could win NSB every week at the expense of the other stats... I think that's a poor strategy, but that's really up to the manager.

quote:

No need for QS if all we're worried about is getting outs
Well, then it's a good thing that's not all we're worried about, isn't it? There are 6 pitching stats, not 1. Approach it however you see fit.

ETA: Barry's right... time to let this die.
This post was edited on 2/12/15 at 1:37 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:39 pm to
You can be successful at winning IP without having any successful players. That's my point

SBs isn't the best category to compare that to. Not only is it a skill but we are penalizing for getting caught.

The same way you get nothing if you don't get a QS start. Well, except for now you get rewarded simply for throwing an innings

We might as well make wins a category too.
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