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re: FSBDL Redd Rankings

Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:37 am to
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:37 am to
no it isnt


Saves and Holds are separate in that league to make 6 cats
This post was edited on 2/12/15 at 10:38 am
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:37 am to
I skipped over the scoring. I thought i had it figured out, but now that i think about it i guess i really didn't know the 6th pitching category. And if it was discussed in a thread, i clearly missed it.


I knew all along that we had a IP requirement, I never would have suspected the 6th category would have been IP.

Thankfully I would have drafted the same anyway. But it doesnt really make much sense, and seems forced just to find that 6th category.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:37 am to
Nope
Posted by reddman
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:37 am to
In HC it is:

OBP
TB
HR
RBI
SB-CS
Runs

ERA
WHIP
QS
K/9
Saves-BS
Holds


Didnt feel like separating saves and holds was an option in a 20 man league because the categories, especially saves would be spread really thin.
This post was edited on 2/12/15 at 10:38 am
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:37 am to
It's not... the HC league uses HD and S-BS as two separate scoring stats. I hated it broken up like that.


And yeah, part of me is bitter than in the playoffs two seasons ago I had a set-up man blow a save and it cost me a matchup. I didn't even need any more holds, but blown holds isn't a stat.
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:39 am to
Oh well

I'll adjust. Just sucks I didn't catch that before as my pitching is pretty fricked now.
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:44 am to
I don't mind the IP category. It prevents a team who loaded up on RPs from dominating the pitching statistics. And I say that as someone who used that strategy.

If you don't have at least two categories geared solely to SPs (like QS and IP), then RPs become overpowered and everyone in the league would have loaded up more on them. Especially in a 20 team league.

What other category would everyone liked to have seen in there that doesn't weaken the teams that drafted good SP staffs?
This post was edited on 2/12/15 at 10:46 am
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:51 am to
quote:

t prevents a team who loaded up on RPs from dominating the pitching statistics. And I say that as someone who used that strategy.



that's what the 35IP or 6 starts requirement is for
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:52 am to
I honestly like the idea of making the option of making the Minimum innings and then sitting on your laurels a little less enticing.

In tdbl if your opponent has three guys go on Monday and they all deal...they pretty much just sit on that and win ERA, WHIP, and K/9
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:52 am to
quote:

that's what the 35IP or 6 starts requirement is for



That's what reading the constitution before agreeing to it is for.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:55 am to
You are an angry fella, E.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:57 am to



if you see anger in any of my posts you are searching in the wrong place.


Like searching in a thread for a league you quit on.
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:58 am to
Naw man

35 innings or 6 starts insures you cannot load up on RP and get by

ERA and WHIP are also contingent on SPs doing the bulk of the work there, as well as QS (and IP now). Relievers are still an afterthought as they will soley get you one cat while giving you a slight bump elsewhere if they have good ratios. They help but they aren't going to win you pitching cats

Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
5358 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:00 am to
quote:

that's what the 35IP or 6 starts requirement is for


Removing it would still weaken SPs and, depending on what category would replace it, give a team filled with RPs more of an advantage. It all depends on what would be replacing that category.

Look at my team. I drafted my pitching staff knowing I'd be punting 2 pitching categories each week. If IP wasn't there, that's one of the categories I was punting, my staff of RPs just got stronger unless you replace the IP category with one that's geared solely towards SP. But if you replace it with a category that RPs can compete in, then that now gives me 5 categories to compete in each week and I'd only be punting one.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27833 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:05 am to
quote:

What do you have available for an arm, MWG?


Michael Saunders

A nice player that provides a little bit of both pop and speed.
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
5358 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:07 am to
quote:

35 innings or 6 starts insures you cannot load up on RP and get by


I am confident enough to roll my top 3 SPs out for the majority of their starts and let my 6-7 RPs pick up 10-15 innings each week. We'll see if 35 IP is enough to dilute the ratio's of my RPs enough that they wont matter as much.

Edit: I'm obviously hoping that 35 IP isn't enough to weaken RPs,
This post was edited on 2/12/15 at 11:10 am
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74411 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:13 am to
6 starts/35 IP mean you basically need 6 good SPs to compete in pitching. In a 20 team league, that is already putting a heavy priority on SPs. Even if you said each team needs 5 good SPs, you are looking at the top 100 SPs being extremely valuable.

Now on top of that, you are throwing IP out there as another cat people have to chase. You are almost forcing people to go out and pitch Aaron Harangs on a Sunday if they have a shot at winning IP. That's silly if you ask me
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:14 am to
Not going to lie.

I thought the IP minimum was 30.

I'm freaking out now
This post was edited on 2/12/15 at 11:15 am
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:15 am to
its done bro

the time to argue this was 2 weeks ago
Posted by reddman
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:15 am to
quote:

6 starts/35 IP mean you basically need 6 good SPs to compete in pitching



This is absolutely false. Not one team has 6 GOOD SPs.

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