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The talk of refusing to certify.
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:03 am
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:03 am
So do the results of not only the EV but also the popular vote quell all the talk of refusing to certify, or does anyone think they still try this stunt? I honestly don’t think the country would take this lightly if they tried……
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:03 am to Iowatiger209
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but also the popular vote
I was worried until this happened.
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:03 am to Iowatiger209
If they dont certify Jan 6th is going to look like childs play
The jig is up
The jig is up
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:03 am to Iowatiger209
They have no choice but to certify
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:04 am to Iowatiger209
This "they won't certify" meme is for blackpilled dullards
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:04 am to Iowatiger209
I hope they try. I’m up for a good time!
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:04 am to Iowatiger209
THREAT TO DEMOCRACY!!!
WILL NOT CONCEDE THE ELECTION!!
INSURRECTION!!!
WILL NOT CONCEDE THE ELECTION!!
INSURRECTION!!!
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:06 am to Iowatiger209
Tell anybody who suggests this that they should lead a violent guerilla war movement against the Fascist Nazi Garbage people of the USA.
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:09 am to Iowatiger209
They MAY have tried this with a narrow Trump win, but this was an absolute arse kicking
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:11 am to Iowatiger209
quote:Results won't totally quell the talk of refusing to certify, but they will mitigate them.
So do the results of not only the EV but also the popular vote quell all the talk of refusing to certify
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:12 am to NC_Tigah
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Results won't totally quell the talk of refusing to certify, but they will mitigate them.
Agreed. There will still be a few nutcases talk about it, but nothing substantial.
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:13 am to Iowatiger209
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So do the results of not only the EV but also the popular vote quell all the talk of refusing to certify, or does anyone think they still try this stunt?
Not with a margin this large. Theyll just continue to try to force him out via the courts, like they have since 2016,
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:21 am to Iowatiger209
If Trump had been tried and convicted of insurrection, then they could make it where he would need a 2/3 vote in both houses to gain a pass.
But since he was never convicted of insurrection, they have nothing.
Just because CNN says the word, "insurrection" 1000 times, does not make it so.
Doesn't mean that can't try some stupid crap, like delaying Trump from being able to move into the Whitehouse for a few months.
Whatever it would be, it would be petty, small minded, and weak.
But since he was never convicted of insurrection, they have nothing.
Just because CNN says the word, "insurrection" 1000 times, does not make it so.
Doesn't mean that can't try some stupid crap, like delaying Trump from being able to move into the Whitehouse for a few months.
Whatever it would be, it would be petty, small minded, and weak.
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:29 am to Iowatiger209
quote:A) it's not a stunt, it is actually a legal procedure provided for by our constitution as a backstop to, in the founders mind, foreign influence. Have to remember, when they ratified the constitution and held the first couple of elections there were a lot of people running around in the 13 states that still thought of themselves as British subjects. The enemy within if you will.
So do the results of not only the EV but also the popular vote quell all the talk of refusing to certify, or does anyone think they still try this stunt? I honestly don’t think the country would take this lightly if they tried……
B) It happens all the time. Only once has it really had an effect on the outcome.
C) Any senator or rep can object to any state's electors.
D) If objected to, those objections must be supported by one senator and one rep.
The VP will hear the objections. The houses seperately will vote on their validity. This is where the down ballots matter. If either house votes on the objections, the state can then send alternate electors. The state laws mandate how those are chosen.
PA and MI alternates are chosen by the governor. The will object. The dem senator will back it. If the senate doesn't flip they will uphold the objections. At that point Whitmer and Shapiro will flip MI and PA (combined 34 electors) will go from Trump to Harris putting it at (at this time) 262 for Trump and 258 for Harris.
It will be challenged at the USSC, and lose because this is laid out by law and the consitutuion.
So at this point, Harris need AZ (11) and either Maine (pretty much a lock) or NV.
If AZ goes Trump, this plan does nothing for Harris because she still doesn't get to 270 and Trump does at 273.
So if AZ with their up to 5 days of counting in Maricopa county decides if this plan goes forward or not.
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:30 am to Iron Lion
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They have no choice but to certify
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:35 am to I20goon
Constitution was written in 1787 and most Tories had left by then. If they attempted to go down the path you noted, then January 6th would be like an ice cream social.
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:44 am to Lynxrufus2012
quote:Keep in mind, they knew new states would be added in the future with "adopted" citizens and this was a Republic.
Constitution was written in 1787 and most Tories had left by then. If they attempted to go down the path you noted, then January 6th would be like an ice cream social.
The legislature, both houses, was the last protection from any state grinding the thing to a halt or holding the other states "hostage".
Remember- the slate of electors aren't necessarily chosen by vote. A state decides how those electors are chosen. For that reason, it is quite easy for a governor to do the "hostage" thing in a close electoral college. For that reason electors can be challenged, and if need the house votes on president and senate will vote on VP.
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