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re: Google's ability to track you

Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:22 pm to
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13804 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:22 pm to
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That’s what you think. Ping.
I know it’s being tracked, the ads don’t show up though.
Posted by Chef Free Gold Bloom
Wherever I’m needed
Member since Dec 2019
1364 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:28 pm to
If you have google maps on your phone and want to freak out go look up past trips. It has tracked and catalogued everything you’ve done for a decade
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
4064 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:48 pm to
Even if they are recording everything, the data is worthless if you ask me. Wow, he went to a store that sells consumer grade and are a crappy processed Applebee’s meal.

Maybe google should stick to indexing stuff people are looking for in the internet instead of yielding searches these days they don’t seem to amount to crap other than where the nearest Macdonald’s is.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 8:01 pm to
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How?



Airplane altimeters use barometric pressure to determine the altitude of the plane, the higher the plane the lower the air pressure. Likewise if google knows the barometric pressure of your location they know your altitude, and from that can extrapolate what floor of a building you are on by using a typical floor separation of 12-15 feet vertical for each floor. Also highly likely they have the actual physical characteristics of the building you are in based on you location, and can get very accurate vertical location information using your altitude.
This post was edited on 2/13/20 at 8:11 pm
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
6689 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 8:05 pm to
Track away. I've got nothing to hide
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113896 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 8:11 pm to
This is why you always have a few burners on hand. Sometimes its best to leave phone at home.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51348 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 8:34 pm to
I keep location off.

BlackBerry has an app called dtek. Tells me what each app is doing. Amazing how many were singing my location til I turned them off.
Posted by go_tigres
Member since Sep 2013
5152 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 8:55 pm to
I google searched “green board Home Depot” on my work iPad this morning. I had ads for green board from Home Depot on my personal cell and laptop and my work cell for the rest of the day. That’s creepy shite.
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
8601 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 10:12 pm to
To me this is no worse that that stupid FLA man taking upskirt pics in Chipotle. It's very invasive and I hate it.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
near the Apple spaceship
Member since Nov 2012
5151 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 11:14 pm to
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his phone measured the atmosphere?

Using a sensor app, I determined that my Pixel 2 has a Bosch BMP280 pressure sensor.

https://www.bosch-sensortec.com/products/environmental-sensors/pressure-sensors/pressure-sensors-bmp280-1.html

quote:

The BMP280 is an absolute barometric pressure sensor especially designed for mobile applications.

Applications
- Enhancement of GPS navigation (e.g. time-to first-fix improvement, dead-reckoning, slope detection)
- Indoor navigation (floor detection, elevator detection)
- Outdoor navigation, leisure, and sports applications
- Weather forecasts
- Health care applications (e.g. spirometry)
- Vertical velocity indication (e.g. rise/sink speed)

Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
5933 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 11:32 pm to
Fundamentally, it's a question of who owns our data either Google, FB etc or us.

The bargain of "free services" has backfired in a way few ever would have predicted 20 years ago.

But some did and here we are.

Google and FB say that the bargain works and if they're constrained in invading our privacy the web as we know it fails to work.

I'm ok with that let them fail.
Posted by Poohbear8487
Nashville
Member since May 2015
960 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 2:03 am to
It potentially could get worse moving forward as well with the passing of GDPR and now CCPA. If Google removes third-party cookies then marketing may rely on location data to make up for the loss of cookie tracking. Location-based tracking and geofencing work great but right now it’s extremely easy to know when you came to a website, from what location and IP address (if you aren’t at your office), what company IP address, what pages you looked at and for how long. On top of that, can also record your entire visit to the website and watch it to figure out your patterns and engagement. Also, can use all that information to know what Ads to show you and where to show them. That’s just a few things you can do right now with marketing software, it’s pretty crazy.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30234 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 2:46 am to
"The Creepy Line" by Dr. Robert Epstein (not THAT Epstein) has a short movie on how Google and Apple track data but specifically how useful and how it IS USED to move the needle in elections.

It wasn't fully employed in 2016 because no one that Trump had a chance but it'll be in full force in 2020.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30234 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 2:53 am to
Barometric pressure! I’ve often wondered how our phones knew the flights of stairs we walked but figured it was too stupid to ask. I just figured a gyroscope or some shot was used.

I hate that I doubt myself that way..
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
11175 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 4:59 am to
This is what you get for using free shite like Android
Posted by Tigris
Mexican Home
Member since Jul 2005
12347 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 5:48 am to
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Barometric pressure!


Yep - Accurate Altimeter is an app I use at times. It shows your elevation based on three things:

1) GPS signal - satellite triangulation on your phone.
2) Location - this is the elevation of the ground based on maps of your location.
3) Pressure sensor - the higher the elevation the lower the pressure.

It's really not accurate enough to say exactly what floor you are on. My readings now -

1) 138 ft
2) 27 ft
3) 95 ft

None are very good. Where I'm at the ground is 8 feet above sea level - so 2) is off. And I'm actually 25 feet above sea level since I'm in an elevated house, so the pressure sensor is off by 70 feet.
And the satellite triangulation is off by more than 100 feet.
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