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re: Hospital nurse arrested after refusing illegal blood draw order
Posted on 9/3/17 at 9:07 am to shel311
Posted on 9/3/17 at 9:07 am to shel311
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1. Hospital Administration wasn't there, they were on the phone call she was on when she was placed under arrest.
So you're telling me that the hospital administration (who clearly know the rules) could not communicate with the other officers at the scene (who were working security for the hospital) to intervene and protect this woman since they outnumbered the detective officer? I didn't say anything about attacking the cop. But if the other officers would have spoken to the man or provided any opposition, I doubt things would have unfolded exactly like they did. Those officers are paid to provide security while they are there. They didn't do anything.
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 9:16 am to eitek1
Yep that's my problem with "good cops" summed up right there
Posted on 9/3/17 at 9:23 am to 20MuleTeam
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Yep that's my problem with "good cops" summed up right there
So you want the "good cops" to rat on their brothers every time they have to get a little physical to get a suspect to comply? It's gonna be real hard for cops to do their jobs and even harder to kidnap and rape citizens when there's no trust between the boys in blue. But I guess that's what you antifa people want.
This post was edited on 9/3/17 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 9/3/17 at 9:29 am to Big EZ Tiger
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But if the other officers would have spoken to the man or provided any opposition, I doubt things would have unfolded exactly like they did. Those officers are paid to provide security while they are there. They didn't do anything.
You are talking about a security guard Vs police officer standoff of sorts? No way that ends well.
Most of your legit security in a larger hospital are off duty cops working a second job as security. They are in their police uniform but are working for the hospital and not PD. Problem is that they are working likely for the exact same police department or a very close agency. Like a city cop on duty and a county/Parrish sheriff doing his security gig.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:25 am to LucasP
Idiot
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:32 am to Big EZ Tiger
quote:How would that have helped?
So you're telling me that the hospital administration (who clearly know the rules) could not communicate with the other officers at the scene (who were working security for the hospital) to intervene and protect this woman since they outnumbered the detective officer?
Who do trust more to communicate a clinical process, a seasoned nurse or a security guard?
That makes no sense. The nurse was the best person to explain that process. Administration was on the phone on the way there when it happened, telling the cop he was making a huge mistake. So again, who do you think can communicate that process better, a seasoned nurse, Admin on the phone, or Hospital Security? No brainer who is last on that list.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 12:57 pm to shel311
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How would that have helped?
Who do trust more to communicate a clinical process, a seasoned nurse or a security guard?
I never said anything about getting the security guard to explain the process to him. The nurse or her boss were the perfect people to communicate that to him and the nurse did. The officer was a jackass and wasn't listening to her. The officers would have been the ones to intervene after witnessing what was happening since they work for the hospital to secure the place and provide security to those employed by the hospital. They outnumbered the detective and could have helped to defuse the situation by approaching the guy and talking to him since she obviously was not a threat and doing nothing wrong.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:15 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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They outnumbered the detective and could have helped to defuse the situation by approaching the guy and talking to him since she obviously was not a threat and doing nothing wrong.
Unless the detective had his pants around his ankles with his dick in his hand, no hospital security guard is going to approach a uniformed police officer to stop him. EVER.
If u are talking about actual cops working security for the hospital as a second job that makes some sense but is still a stretch. You could tell by the body language of all involved that they disagreed with the detective. Maybe he was the ranking guy in the room? The one guy on camera who actually put his hand on the cop looked about 20. He wasn't telling a guy with probably 25 years on him what to do.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 2:41 pm to LSU alum wannabe
*edit*
shite now as I am reading through the thread I see it was mentioned. I didn't realize there was a separate SEC OT
This post was edited on 9/3/17 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:36 am to NYNolaguy1
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:44 am to Epic Cajun
Helluva necrobump but well worth it!
Sorry son of a bitch deserves jail time!
Sorry son of a bitch deserves jail time!
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:53 am to Epic Cajun
Nvm, the Lt. was demoted.
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 8:01 am
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:57 am to NYNolaguy1
He was demoted to officer as stated in the article...
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:00 am to Epic Cajun
Good for that fricking piece of shite.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:46 am to Havoc
See people, THIS is how you handle POS cops. Don't run from them, fight them, or get unruly with them. Just chill out and let the system work. If the cop is truly in the wrong, he will get his just due.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:49 am to Epic Cajun
quote:Oh Lawd!
Salt Lake City Police Chief Mike Brown
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:54 am to LordSaintly
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If the cop is truly in the wrong, he will get his just due.
You have more faith in our system than I do.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:13 am to LordSaintly
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See people, THIS is how you handle POS cops. Don't run from them, fight them, or get unruly with them. Just chill out and let the system work. If the cop is truly in the wrong, he will get his just due.
Body cameras are a good thing for the citizenry - why do you think a lot of cops are against them? This case was also witnessed by numerous professional and credible people and got lots of media coverage.
Same cop - without the body camera and the abundance of witnesses - and this incident does not end with him being fired.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:25 am to Epic Cajun
I bet he is anti-body camera
also I wonder if the people supporting the officer earlier in the thread feel differently when learning this/
also I wonder if the people supporting the officer earlier in the thread feel differently when learning this/
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The patient wasn’t suspected of wrongdoing. He was an off-duty reserve Idaho police officer driving a semitrailer when he was hit by a man fleeing police in a pickup truck.
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 9:28 am
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:30 am to RonLaFlamme
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Same cop - without the body camera and the abundance of witnesses - and this incident does not end with him being fired.
Without a doubt. This is a systemic problem across the country. Not all cops are bad, but there are lots that let the power of a badge and gun go to their head The bad actors for the most part have not ever been held accountable until everyone in the country has a camera in their pockets. Body cameras will hopefully change things.
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