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Posted on 6/29/22 at 6:56 pm
Posted by Bawpaw
Member since May 2021
925 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 6:56 pm
I consider myself to have a really good short game. Inside 50 yards I can pull off any shot I need at the moment. Went to chip some yesterday evening and everything started normal, went and putted then back to chipping area and every ball shot off to the right. No matter what I did it was either a bullet skull or almost stung someone nearby in the ankles. Any suggestions on what to do besides quit?
Posted by Batman86
Member since Mar 2020
428 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 6:59 pm to
Look up Dave Pelz Yips. He has some good drills. One method he has on chipping to help is to play the ball off of your back foot. Turn your back foot toward the target slightly. Use that setup and you’ll hit it solid.

He also has a drill that works well using an alignment stick in your grip. Essentially allowing the alignment stick to be well long and under your leading under arm area.You swing thru a chip without allowing the stick to hit your back. Requires you to have the proper swing/motion that creates some muscle memory.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32535 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:16 pm to
It’s damn near impossible to diagnose online, but go back to the basics. Watch the Kisner video of using the bounce and go do it
Posted by Eye dentist
Member since Oct 2013
552 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 9:48 pm to
Sounds more like the shanks than the yips. The yips occur when your hands flinch uncontrollably at impact. Sounds like you’re hitting the hosel with the ball.

Several things I will do to avoid the shanks. I make sure it’s not a primarily arm swing, by focusing on rotating my sternum back, then sternum through as I hit the ball. For a quick fix on the course, I’ll try to hit the ball with the toe of the club. When I do that, I aim right of the target and play for a slight hook.
Posted by Bawpaw
Member since May 2021
925 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 6:38 am to
I would agree, it feels like the hosel is hitting the ball. I just hit a few this morning in back yard with no problem.
Posted by jpggpj
Chair
Member since Oct 2005
3988 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 7:27 am to
Without witnessing it's hard to say for sure but one of the most solid parts of my has always been my chipping. One day while practicing I started this extreme hard shank to the right. Whenever I would miss-hit a chip it was always the shank to the right. I had no clue what was happening. Everything felt as it should until I made contact with the ball. Once I hit the ball it took off hard right. I struggled for almost a half hour that day not being able to figure it out but then had a friend show up and told me it wasn't from an open face but I was actually hitting the ball with the hosel. Once I concentrated on that while swinging, it was night and day. Apparently, on the downswing, I was extending arms or something creating the ability of the clubface to be too far out and thus having the ball contact the hosel. I can almost guarantee that is what is happening to you. Concentrate on having your arms or hands or whatever closer to body on downswing. Basically just make sure the hosel is below or inside the ball and I bet you see consistent results immediately.
Posted by Bawpaw
Member since May 2021
925 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 7:40 am to
This is exactly what is happening. I was 10’ from the green and there was a kid and dad at 3 o’clock to me and I ran the first two between the kids legs. I apologized and it went South from there. Could hit a high flop shot though?
Posted by JukeLeft
Member since Feb 2015
956 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 9:26 am to
Take a day off and forget it happened. You probably had those kids in your mind the whole time after you almost hit them. You'll be fine.
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
3905 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:15 am to
For me, I start "swinging with my arms" rather than core/legs. When I go back to basics, the yips go away.


Or I'm standing too close.
Posted by jpggpj
Chair
Member since Oct 2005
3988 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:41 am to
quote:

a kid and dad at 3 o’clock to me and I ran the first two between the kids legs


No doubt hosel hit.

quote:

Could hit a high flop shot though?


For me I could still hit the shots that I was swinging with more velocity on the downstroke. I find that when my swing speed increased, my hands/arms stayed tighter to the body. When I was doing a slower, more controlled type chip, my hands/arms would drift towards the ball more allowing the hosel to be closer to the ball and causing the extreme right shank. A good thought is like another poster said and try and hit on the toe. That may help the club get in the right position. I concentrate on my hands being below the ball as I'm looking down while I swing through. Either way, just knowing what is causing the shank is the main thing. When you don't know what is causing it then you can chase your tail for a long time. How you fix it is up to you.
Posted by jpggpj
Chair
Member since Oct 2005
3988 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:41 am to
quote:

a kid and dad at 3 o’clock to me and I ran the first two between the kids legs

No doubt hosel hit.

quote:

Could hit a high flop shot though?

For me I could still hit the shots that I was swinging with more velocity on the downstroke. I find that when my swing speed increased, my hands/arms stayed tighter to the body. When I was doing a slower, more controlled type chip, my hands/arms would unknowingly would drift towards the ball more allowing the hosel to be closer to the ball and causing the extreme right shank. It was a miss that I had trouble figuring out. A good thought is like another poster said and try and hit on the toe. That may help the club get in the right position. I concentrate on my hands being below the ball as I'm looking down while I swing through. Either way, just knowing what is causing the shank is the main thing. When you don't know what is causing it is what sucks. You can chase your tail for a long time. How you fix it is up to you.
This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 10:43 am
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
10145 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:42 am to
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Bawpaw


did you climb into my game\head and post this? i am going through this exact same thing right now....used to just walk up to shots 20-50 yards out, stand over it, and land them.

now, the only question is how far to the right is it going to shoot!

i've watched the one drill someone mentioned with the alignment stick extending off the club into your lead underarm....that has helped. i think for me, the biggest issue right now is staying down (head, body, eyes) through impact....i think i started a lifting problem.
Posted by EyeOfTheTiger311
Lafayette, LA
Member since Aug 2005
4336 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

I consider myself to have a really good short game. Inside 50 yards I can pull off any shot I need at the moment. Went to chip some yesterday evening and everything started normal, went and putted then back to chipping area and every ball shot off to the right. No matter what I did it was either a bullet skull or almost stung someone nearby in the ankles. Any suggestions on what to do besides quit?



Get that handle low and left through the shot. That usually helps when I start doing this.

Also the Kisner video is great too. The butt of the club should face your belt buckle through the entire swing.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15802 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 7:33 pm to
IF a shank happens, it can be because your weight gets over your toes.

I try to flare my toes up while hitting the ball.
It seems to work when the shank shows up.
Posted by Art Vandelay
LOUISIANA
Member since Sep 2005
10699 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 9:20 am to
Yips then shanks then lost my swing. Yips made me quit golf
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