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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:23 pm to
Posted by Sofly225
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:23 pm to
What happened in warmups that had the ladies distracted from Jays statement . No excuse for the talent and the number of members on this team. I really understand college gymnastics. It’s not about win/loss. The score is most important and LSU can’t catch the top 4 and probably will go down after Auburn had a tremendous meet. They have progressed and I commend them because they couldn’t do post season last season and other then the two freshman Suni and Sophia, it’s basically the same team. Talent is what gets you to the top, but great coaching is what wins championships. Jays ego and stubbornness is sadly what his downfall was at Georgia and I hope it’s not the same for us. Yes he has helped elevate LSU with regards to media and notariaty, but other than Sarah Finnegan’s two national titles, all the rest have come from Breaux and Moore. It’s no excuse because all the teams have dealt with covid, everyone has injuries, it’s apart of sports, but we haven’t progressed. If things don’t change we will be the next UCLA. All the talent but where is it going and how is it utilized?
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 10:25 pm
Posted by khill715
Sterlington
Member since May 2019
774 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:34 pm to
I wouldn’t hope for much next week because it’s the supers last time in the pmac, so instead of seeing what we could throw out their and improve like someone said earlier it will probably be the same lineups. So Jay said the supers came back because nationals left a bad test in their mouth but I can’t imagine how it will taste when they never get there.
Posted by jpylan1
Member since Oct 2008
138 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:37 pm to
OMG, the amount of people commenting on Jay that can’t even do a cartwheel is killing me. Trust me, as someone that has been there, done that, and competed that, Jay put the best lineup he had on the floor tonight.

Everyone needs to calm down and realize this team is VERY good! Tonight doesn’t matter - and we still scored a score that will boost our NQS score. Was it a complete meet, absolutely not. Was it what i was hoping for - nope! But it still allows us to drop a 196.
Posted by Bayougallc
Member since Mar 2018
742 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:43 pm to
We have Utah next week and they just scored a 198.575.

Jay's stubbornness is going to cost us another season of disappointment the way he is choosing lineups and holding back upgrades.
Posted by khill715
Sterlington
Member since May 2019
774 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:44 pm to
I can’t throw a fb, a bb, or shoot a basketball but I comment on all that too. It’s called being a fan
Posted by shaquilleoatmeal
Member since Jun 2021
961 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:46 pm to
Will def need some of that home scoring next week
Posted by LSUgymfan420
Member since Oct 2018
742 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:49 pm to
If this is going to be a real sport, then people get to comment on it. People who have never played basketball comment on basketball, etc etc. These types of comments don’t help increase the legitimacy of this as a sport.
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 10:50 pm
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67950 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:50 pm to
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Utah next week and they just scored a 198.575.


How the hell have three teams hit 198.5+ this week? I’ve seen a lot of great teams over the years that could barely muster 198 with great performances. When the scores are getting that high, judging is way out of control.

Unfortunately it will impact seedings/NQS
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
6236 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:55 pm to
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Aleah’s dismount, Elena’s dismount, Bridgett is solid but always has leaps and firm issues. Christina dismount was kinda wonky.


Elenas dismount was minor and there was nothing wrong with Christina’s. Ok now do Kentucky’s beam rotation.
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
6236 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:00 pm to
quote:

How the hell have three teams hit 198.5+ this week? I’ve seen a lot of great teams over the years that could barely muster 198 with great performances. When the scores are getting that high, judging is way out of control.

Unfortunately it will impact seedings/NQS


So if both teams are on their game next Friday then someone will score a 199. Lol

But according to this board we are slumping and Jays turrible not sure how’ll we will compete next week.
Posted by Sofly225
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2022
124 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:28 pm to
We are slumping. Just look at the sec. I’m comparing the gymnast and teams. Not overscoring or etc. Florida is clearly the best team in the Sec maybe even the best in the nation. Auburn looked great tonight and has steadily improved every meet. Bama is Bama and has a reputation of elevating come post season. Then u have Kentucky and Missouri who have steadily improved season after season. It starts with the basics. Form and details . Also being consistent and confident goes a long way for score building. Great coaches have a formula of getting the best out of their athletes and work hard. I watched the Auburn Florida meet. We don’t look like neither of those teams. Auburn had so many upgrades tonight. Where are ours? Where is the supposed depth. Something doesn’t seem right with this season. I haven’t seen an LSU team look unprepared so late in a season is a cause for worry.
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 11:34 pm
Posted by Sofly225
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2022
124 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:30 pm to
And the scoring was accurate tonight. The judges deducted for obvious errors. LSU did not land well and lineups are not up to par with the talent of the team
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 11:38 pm
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
6236 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:32 pm to
quote:

We are slumping. Just look at the sec. I’m comparing the gymnast and teams. Not overscoring or etc. Florida is clearly the best team in the Sec maybe even the best in the nation. Auburn looked great tonight and has steadily improved every meet. Bama is Bama and has a reputation of elevating come post season. Then u have Kentucky and Missouri who have steadily improved season after season. It starts with the basics. Form and details . Also consistent and confidence. Great coaches have a formula of getting the best out of their athletes and work hard. I watched the Auburn Florida meet. We don’t look like neither of those teams. Auburn had so many upgrades tonight. Where are ours. We’re is the supposed depth. Something doesn’t seem right with this season. I haven’t seen an LSU team degrees so late in a season is a cause for worry.


I’m going to bump this post after SEC championships
Posted by Sofly225
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2022
124 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:34 pm to
I hope I’m wrong
Posted by LSUgymfan420
Member since Oct 2018
742 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:59 pm to
I am with you Sofly. Maybe they’ll improve (I certainly think they’ll have a better week against Utah), but I don’t see the quality this year. Or the championship quality this year - make no mistake that I think this time is good, just not going to fight for championships.

It kind of reminds me of the years of football qb woes we had pre-joe burrow. Like, does it all go back to bringing Christina early when that may not have been best and then having a hole in this year’s actual seniors (the only actual one being d’antonio?) and losing ferrer? Coupled with just never developing the super seniors as much as they should have been? I am probably reaching here - but something has been off for me nearly since hambrick left and certainly since Kelley/finnegan/Priessman did.

Posted by Babushka
Member since Feb 2019
113 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 12:03 am to
VT
- Edwards needs to be dropped. Focus on clean and stuck FTYs from Kai and KJ (if she’s not throwing the DTY).
- Why haven’t we seen Finnegan or Tatum exhibition once? Not to mention Ryan

UB
- Dunne was doing a perfectly fine giant full to double tuck dismount in L10. Go back to it. Her DLO is a deduction trap right now.
- Alyona needs to do a stalder - double tuck dismount, like yesterday. Florida has already changed McCusker’s dismount 3 times this season to find the best one.
- Arenas’ routine is not clean enough. I would like to see Brock and Tatum get a chance to compete.
- Finnegan should be in the lineup, every week.

BB
- Good to see Finnegan’s progress here.
- Put Kai in, she’s a FIGHTER that I can trust.
- Credit to Dean’s consistency, although we shouldn’t be in a position where that routine is undroppable.
- We are losing Christina/Sami/Dean from the lineup next year. We really need to start giving Dunne and KJ competitive experience.

FX
- We really need to work on our leaps. Don’t understand why Alyona and Dunne are doing unnecessary switch ring 1/2s this year. Literally no other teams are doing it because it’s so difficult to execute well. Christina also changed her leap sequence and it looks worse this year IMO.
- To give credit, good to see Dunne, Bryant and Finnegan doing 2-pass routines. We seem to be less obsessed with doing double salto dismounts.
- Disappointing choreo and performance quality yet again. These things absolutely make a difference when we go head to head with the top teams.
Posted by Sofly225
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2022
124 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 12:12 am to
I actually like their floor routines this year. Injuries I feel have affected this lineup the most. Christina was doing so well at the beginning of the season and has reverted to her old self. Can’t land. Dunne needs a new leap series or hopefully Alyona can get back in there. The last four Kj, Aleah, Haleigh, and Kiya can all be 9.95 plus. Other than the Auburn floor meet, we haven’t been consistent enough with the best girls on the floor
Posted by GeaauuxxFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
1353 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 12:21 am to
I love this team. It’s hard to say negative things when it’s what brings so much joy for me personally. Something does appear to be missing. And perhaps it is just piled up injuries. Or lack of experience while expecting so much out of the sophomore and freshman class. I would say it’s safe to say that both classes have come in short of where those expectations were. Again, I assume due to injures and growth spurts. My major concern is the same of what has already been said. This team is not improving, while most teams are.

I do wonder if practices have been more relaxed due to all the injuries. This team just looks messy. I don’t see any refinement of any routines at all. And I sat tonight and actually thought to myself.. maybe they just aren’t that good? On paper.. this team should be fantastic.

We have beat to death a lot of the issues. Obviously there aren’t any answers though, or I imagine we would see it. But again.. is that a coaching concern? I don’t know. I just know that we have three bars dismounts that are getting hammered right now. We have three fulls in a vault lineup.

Also, judging is absolutely ruining this sport! There has to be an overhaul this off-season.

I hope this is all mega overreaction. But right now.. I don’t feel a whole lot of hope that this team will make a run. It sucks to see so many teams improving. It sucks to see other teams gaining amazing athletes back for next season, and lsu doesn't have anyone to gain in comparison. I also realize that lsu doesn’t have much hope coming in to help with those vaults either. And I will not believe that Bryce will have a double full, until I see it.
Posted by tlricks04
Member since Jan 2019
1213 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 2:05 am to
I agree with you. Next year will be a struggle too (although I want to be optimistic). I really only see Bryce on vault and possibly Annie on beam.

Also, I think what has irked me the most this year (like someone noted earlier) was the lack progress in some routines (Edwards vault, bars dismounts). I don’t know…I think I expected more in a lot of areas.
Posted by russiangym
Member since Jan 2020
127 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 2:35 am to
On Dunne, these are just from 2020. Her double tuck off bars has no built in deductions and look at the class she has on beam.

I can see Covid and her ankle sprain setting her back some, but it shouldn't have been this much (and they should have explored different skills on beam that would bother her ankle less. If she can do floor why can't she do beam?)

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