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Natural covid immunity does not last forever.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 11/22/21 at 1:59 pm
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In this study we have inferred phylogenetic relationships among the human-infecting coronaviruses, demonstrating that a phylogenetic analysis of the ancestral and descendent states can inform our understanding of virus-specific waning of antibodies post-infection, the probability of infection at a given antibody level, and the distribution of likely times to reinfection. Our analyses show that both the waning antibody profiles and the probabilities of infection at a given antibody level are heterogeneous among human-infecting coronaviruses. Quantifying both of these parameters by ancestral and descendent states analysis enabled us to infer a timescale to likely reinfection for each coronavirus. Reinfection by SARS-CoV-2 under endemic conditions would likely occur between 3 and 63 months after peak antibody response, with a median of 16 months. This protection is of less than half the duration revealed for the endemic coronaviruses circulating among humans.
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Our estimated times to reinfection are consistent with the low numbers of validated cases of reinfection. However, our results caution that reinfection will become increasingly common as pandemic disease transitions into endemic disease. Our estimated timing of the waning of immunity can facilitate quantitative analyses of all policy decision making about individuals who have recovered from COVID-19 and who might be viewed as temporarily immune to reinfection. In particular, our estimate argues strongly against the claim that a long-standing resolution of the epidemic could arise due to herd immunity from natural infection or that mitigation of the long-term risks of morbidity and mortality can be achieved without vaccination. Relying on herd immunity without widespread vaccination jeopardizes millions of lives, entailing high rates of reinfection, morbidity, and death.
I'm not shitting on herd immunity because it is real thing and very effective. However it does start to wane. So it is not the end all be all that some of the posters here think. So it would be a good idea for you baws and bawettes who got diagnosed with covid-19 (and actually have the lab documentation to prove it) > 3 months ago and have not gotten a vaccine to go to your doctor and get you titers checked. You might be think that you are protected and you are actually not and need a booster :gasp: However I am shitting on the posters who think we should do nothing but wait for nature to build herd immunity.
Yes I know I said something bad about natural immunity and this board thinks that vaccines are the devil so bring on the downvotes.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 2:00 pm to WeeWee
So...natural immunity doesn't last forever..viruses evolve..and then I get sick again..and then I have immunity again..but of course I can just take a government provided shot every 5 months that does the same thing but doesn't actually do the same thing because it can potentially damage my heart and offer no benefits.
This post was edited on 11/22/21 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 11/22/21 at 2:00 pm to WeeWee
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You might be think that you are protected and you are actually not and need a booster :gasp: However I am shitting on the posters who think we should do nothing but wait for nature to build herd immunity
Thanks for the info, baw! What do I need to do if i am not scared of a disease that has a >99% survival rate?
Posted on 11/22/21 at 2:01 pm to WeeWee
I thought that was old news?
Posted on 11/22/21 at 2:02 pm to WeeWee
So, where are stories of people hospitalized twice with Rona?
Posted on 11/22/21 at 2:02 pm to WeeWee
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with a median of 16 months
So, much better than the vax
Good to know
Posted on 11/22/21 at 2:02 pm to WeeWee
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You might be think that you are protected and you are actually not and need a booster :gasp:
You are going to need a booster every 6 months for the rest of your life. You realize this, correct?
Posted on 11/22/21 at 2:03 pm to WeeWee
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I'm not shitting on herd immunity because it is real thing and very effective. However it does start to wane
I think it is far lessened in it's destructive nature to the point of a weak flu vs. Naturally acquired immunity.
My kid still has anti-bodies 18 months after and we can't tell if he's had it since but was tested due to proximity 4 times since, and all were negative.
The real problem is that the vax doesn't work, and is deadly harmful for a percentage.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 2:03 pm to WeeWee
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Natural covid immunity does not last forever.
First of all, no shite. Natural immunity to the flu or other similar viruses doesn't last forever either.
It does last significantly longer than the ineffective vaccines however.
This post was edited on 11/22/21 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 11/22/21 at 2:03 pm to WeeWee
Sorry, you don’t understand how the immune system works.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 2:03 pm to WeeWee
I've gotten COVID twice, once in early 2020 and then again last month. However both times it was very very weak. I didn't experience much symptoms in 2020, and last month it was basically a very mild cold - I've had sinus infections and bouts with the normal flu that were 100x worse. I got over it in 2 days. So yeah my antibodies didn't last forever but my 2nd time around it was nothing.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 2:04 pm to WeeWee
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Natural covid immunity does not last forever.
are these the same people saying the vaccine works??
Posted on 11/22/21 at 2:04 pm to buford4LSU
Had Covid first week of August 2020. As of last week, still have antibodies.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 2:04 pm to WeeWee
The only thing vaccine are good for in this case is to allow the virus to modified itself into another variant, period!!
And of course those that have been vaccinated now are 100% at the mercy of the vaccines….which last a few months if that!!
We went at it backwards and should have never come up with weak arse vaccines, we should have let the virus take its natural course!!
And of course those that have been vaccinated now are 100% at the mercy of the vaccines….which last a few months if that!!
We went at it backwards and should have never come up with weak arse vaccines, we should have let the virus take its natural course!!
Posted on 11/22/21 at 2:05 pm to Fonzarelli
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What do I need to do if i am not scared of a disease that has a >99% survival rate?
If you listen to what he's telling you, he's saying that you need to get the jab because HE is the one afraid of the virus that has a > 99% survival rate.
People like the OP are scared to death. They can't get past it. Until everyone conforms, they won't feel as safe as they otherwise would. In his mind, he's rationalized it as you being unreasonable and him being reasonable. But, make no mistake, at it's source it's pure fear.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 2:06 pm to WeeWee
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I'm not shitting on herd immunity because it is real thing and very effective. However it does start to wane. So it is not the end all be all that some of the posters here think.
What happens when someone with natural immunity encounters the virus again?
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However I am shitting on the posters who think we should do nothing but wait for nature to build herd immunity.
I don't think I've seen a single poster suggest that those at actual meaningful risk of the virus should not get vaccinated.
Aren't you supposed to be an MD?
Posted on 11/22/21 at 2:06 pm to WeeWee
So we're looking at 16 months median vs 5 months? Also, that 3x improvement in coverage over the masses means you stomp the amount of the virus floating around the population. So even if you are beyond your 16 months, in that scenario the likelihood of encountering it would be drastically lower.
Natural immunity sounds far superior
Natural immunity sounds far superior
Posted on 11/22/21 at 2:06 pm to WeeWee
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Reinfection by SARS-CoV-2 under endemic conditions would likely occur between 3 and 63 months after peak antibody response, with a median of 16 months.
So, natural immunity last "between 3 and 63 months" (HOW THE F*CK DO THEY KNOW WHEN THE DISEASE HASN'T BEEN WIDESPREAD FOR 16 MONTHS).
And, the "vaccines" last 3-6 months (IT DOESN'T) AT BEST IF you believe the FDA/CDC/Pharma after all the f*cking LIES that they've told us already.
But, people should still get the "vaccine" and the multitude of upcoming jabs???
This for a disease with a .008% death rate and where they can't even begin to tell you the long-term side effects of these poisons but we KNOW FOR A F*CKING FACT that there are SEVERE short-term side effects INCLUDING DEATH caused by these "vaccines".
We have passed the realm of CLOWN F*CKING WORLD and are now in the WORLD OF COMPLETE F*CKING INSANITY.
This post was edited on 11/22/21 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 11/22/21 at 2:07 pm to WeeWee
Antibodies are not the only piece to immunity. There is also T cell immunity. Once you have a virus and antibodies fade due to not being exposed (exposure is good for the recovered) you may or may not get sick. T cells will recognize the virus, tell the body to make antibodies again and the big mean virus is nothing more than a minor cold.
This is science. I learned this in 5th grade.
This is science. I learned this in 5th grade.
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