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Dave Aranda and Recruiting
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:25 am
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:25 am
I really don’t think most of you understand how below average Dave is at recruiting.
He just isn’t good at it. I’ve seen names flash on here a bunch, he wasn’t the primary recruiter for a vast majority of those guys. Dave just isn’t good in the living room. Ask around, it’s pretty well known.
He currently recruits in the richest state for talent in the country and yet he has one single 4 star athlete. Rhule was getting 5-6. He doesn’t even have any players of the top 50 in Texas.
At LSU, they had to stretch CR so thin just to get what they got. Aranda would get eaten alive in the SEC. He just isn’t viable. Extremely likable, but not viable.
That’s why Mel Tucker is viewed as higher than him by Woody. That’s being said, I don’t want Mel Tucker either. All he does well except recruit. You have to do both to be elite.
He just isn’t good at it. I’ve seen names flash on here a bunch, he wasn’t the primary recruiter for a vast majority of those guys. Dave just isn’t good in the living room. Ask around, it’s pretty well known.
He currently recruits in the richest state for talent in the country and yet he has one single 4 star athlete. Rhule was getting 5-6. He doesn’t even have any players of the top 50 in Texas.
At LSU, they had to stretch CR so thin just to get what they got. Aranda would get eaten alive in the SEC. He just isn’t viable. Extremely likable, but not viable.
That’s why Mel Tucker is viewed as higher than him by Woody. That’s being said, I don’t want Mel Tucker either. All he does well except recruit. You have to do both to be elite.
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:27 am to IowaCityTigerFan
He's beating the people that are out recruiting him.
You were saying ?
You were saying ?
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:28 am to IowaCityTigerFan
Aranda as a recruiter terrifies me and it’d be paramount to surround him with elite recruiters. However, he is such a good coach and you would really only have to wonder who he will hire as an OC. Tucker would be enticing if he was actually an elite defensive coach, I haven’t seen where he has fielded a great unit and that’s concerning for me. His success would almost depend on hiring both a good DC and a good OC. Maybe Tucker just hasn’t had the talent he’d have at LSU but Aranda is by far the better on the field coach.
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 11:30 am
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:31 am to IowaCityTigerFan
And Ed Orgeron was supposed to be a great recruiter and you see where that got us.
I’d far rather have average players playing above their rating than great players looking like they are fricking lost on the field or barely trying.
I’d far rather have average players playing above their rating than great players looking like they are fricking lost on the field or barely trying.
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 11:32 am
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:31 am to IowaCityTigerFan
He'll have an entire staff to help with that. Also, winning is the biggest recruiting tool you can have. We'd be just fine
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:31 am to IowaCityTigerFan
You’re very rarely going to come across the genius strategist AND elite recruiter. Your position coaches are your primary recruiters anyway. It would suck that you don’t have a HC that can act as closer, but his recruiting would be easier here.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:32 am to IowaCityTigerFan
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don’t think most of you understand how below average Dave is at recruiting.
How many LB/DBs did he get to the draft, and how well are they doing? Like LSU, he recruits himself. The players know the game, and they recognize and want to play for a coach who knows the game better than most people who walk this planet.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:33 am to LSBoosie
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He'll have an entire staff to help with that. Also, winning is the biggest recruiting tool you can have. We'd be just fine
Bingo.
I don’t think anyone here thinks Saban has some great upbeat personality that parents like. No, he’s got his winning record and amount of players he puts in the NFL recruiting for him.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:33 am to IowaCityTigerFan
Bring in the Meatball
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:36 am to IowaCityTigerFan
LSU out recruits just about everyone and isn’t ranked in the Top 100 right now
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:40 am to J2thaROC
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I’d far rather have average players playing above their rating than great players looking like they are fricking lost on the field or barely trying.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:43 am to IowaCityTigerFan
I'll be honest...this is probably my main concern with Aranda as well.
And for anyone thinking the head coach doesn't matter, or you can just rely on AD staff and assistant coaches to do all the recruiting, just look at Florida right now under Mullen.
It was known when Mullen was at MSU that Dan wasn't big on recruiting, and now Florida's recruiting has fallen off a cliff.
And for anyone thinking the head coach doesn't matter, or you can just rely on AD staff and assistant coaches to do all the recruiting, just look at Florida right now under Mullen.
It was known when Mullen was at MSU that Dan wasn't big on recruiting, and now Florida's recruiting has fallen off a cliff.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:46 am to IowaCityTigerFan
LSU recruits for itself. Get any solid tiered coach.. Aranda included and we will have a top rated class year in and year out.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:46 am to IowaCityTigerFan
BS. When Aranda was an unknown it was difficult for him because he is not a natural salesman. Now that he has many many NFL skins on the wall as a developer, people listen a lot closer and know that he can help them get there too.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:46 am to LSBoosie
Everyone saying "he'll just hire staff to recruit", this is from an Athletic article last month. I'm not saying Dave is or isn't bad, but if he is, it's considered to make recruiting much, much tougher, even with a great staff.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:47 am to IowaCityTigerFan
This is the only bullet the anti Aranda crowd has to fire and it's such an easy "problem" to work around.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:51 am to Cs
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And for anyone thinking the head coach doesn't matter, or you can just rely on AD staff and assistant coaches to do all the recruiting, just look at Florida right now under Mullen.
Aranda is not nearly as much of the pompous a-hole that Mullen is. He literally thinks his schemes are so smart it doesn't matter who the players are. I think Aranda knows the importance of having elite players.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:52 am to IowaCityTigerFan
At least he will not recruit guys that are bums, are stupid, or are a combination of the two.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:56 am to IowaCityTigerFan
This is another in a long-line of Rant memes that aren't true.
Somehow these shitty ideas will themselves into existence in people's head.
Somehow these shitty ideas will themselves into existence in people's head.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:59 am to IowaCityTigerFan
quote:I agree there is some merit there but it's not necessarily that he's a bad recruiter. It's more likely that he doesn't feel comfortable pushing the recruiting rules envelope as much as others do.
He just isn’t good at it. I’ve seen names flash on here a bunch, he wasn’t the primary recruiter for a vast majority of those guys.
That could end up being a good thing though. The reputation of running a cleaner operation is just what LSU needs right now. We may miss on a few, but Aranda will more than make up for it in coaching and development. I'm sure other coaches will make up for some of the slack as well and LSU will continue to recruit for itself, even more so once we start winning consistently.
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