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re: Will SCOTUS kill the OSHA mandate?
Posted on 11/5/21 at 3:43 pm to monsterballads
Posted on 11/5/21 at 3:43 pm to monsterballads
bullshite. There has NEVER been OSHA precedent declaring flus contracted from coworkers as an occupational hazard. Further, by the CDCs own admission, the vaccine does NOT stop spread and contraction. In fact, the ADA ensures that HIV patients are considered disabled and do not have to legally disclose their illness to coworkers or managers.
It’ll get struck tf down if it isn’t totally bungled.
It’ll get struck tf down if it isn’t totally bungled.
This post was edited on 11/5/21 at 3:46 pm
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Posted on 11/5/21 at 3:59 pm to burger bearcat
Posted on 11/5/21 at 4:18 pm to Lsut81
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Better do it quick. Going to to be too far down the rabbit hole in the next few weeks.
That's the whole plan. They know SCOTUS isn't taking this on any time soon.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 4:35 pm to burger bearcat
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They don't care if its Constitutional and maybe it fails in courts after a year or so, but at that point, its damage already done.
Spot on.
Their strategy exactly is to keep on enacting illegal bullsh*t that does get swatted away by the courts. But with each and every edict and interim they happily note the numbers of unvaxxed still gets whittled down further. It is by sneaky, steady attrition these psychos hope to break down the final numbers to reach their 90% "GOTCHA!" goal.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 9:52 am to Vacherie Saint
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There has NEVER been OSHA precedent declaring flus contracted from coworkers as an occupational hazard
nope, covid is a little bit different than the flu though.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 9:59 am to monsterballads
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nope, covid is a little bit different than the flu though
Yep, not as much profit in the seasonal flu business
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:26 am to burger bearcat
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Will SCOTUS kill the OSHA mandate?
Probably. I don't see how they could reconcile striking down the CDC's rent controls and not knocking down this OSHA mandate.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:38 am to monsterballads
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nope, covid is a little bit different than the flu though.
So is HIV, MERS, H1N1, Hepatitis, I could go on and on. shite, HIV is protected as a disability. Show me where a OSHA mandates vaccines for any illness as a condition of employment in the private sector. If it were upheld, where does it end? Boosters? Seasonal flu shot mandates? The vaccines are more therapeutic than preventative, so what stops OSHA by presidential decree from using ETS to impose BMI requirements? Forced cessation of tobacco and alcohol? All of these become fair game dont they? So much for freedom - suddenly OSHA is in charge of your personal healthcare decisions.
The reality is, OSHA ETS's are almost always shot TF down in court because they bypass judicial review. The proverbial ready, fire, aim approach.
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of the nine times OSHA used its emergency power until this summer, three went unchallenged, but of the six that went to court, only one instance was fully upheld. All the others were stayed or vacated, in one instance partially. In other words, the courts have by no means been pushovers for OSHA ETSs.
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:41 am to BigJim
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Probably. I don't see how they could reconcile striking down the CDC's rent controls and not knocking down this OSHA mandate.
Good point. If the pandemic doesnt rise to the level that the CDC can use ETS to put a moratorium on rent, how does the same court allow OSHA to use ETS to force workers to be injected?
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:44 am to Strannix
quote:Have to present my religious accommodation request this Friday. Will not back down but (thankfully) I am in a very good situation financially.
It will be a nice Thanksgiving to New Years season debating losing your job or possibly taking a dangerous experimental MRNA therapy.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:50 am to Wolfhound45
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Have to present my religious accommodation request this Friday. Will not back down but (thankfully) I am in a very good situation financially.
Military rejection rates are running 100%. Expected, but it's just killing what little trust people had in senior leadership.
Not sure about contractors or civil service.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:51 am to burger bearcat
Not if Cuck Roberts is the deciding vote. His decisions should state “I voted this way because I am petrified of Antifa rioting.”
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:52 am to burger bearcat
Should they? I think there's no question.
Will they? I am having serious doubts. They have forgotten what their job is.
Will they? I am having serious doubts. They have forgotten what their job is.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:55 am to burger bearcat
They should, but probably won’t
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:59 am to kingbob
So this is already put on hold by the 5th Appeals right?
Posted on 11/8/21 at 11:01 am to DarthRebel
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So this is already put on hold by the 5th Appeals right?
Stay as of right now... Feds have until 5pm to file response and then Plaintiffs have until 5pm tomorrow for response.
Sounds like it would be injunction next and then to USSC
Posted on 11/8/21 at 11:55 am to burger bearcat
Just looking at this mandate from the outside it looks like a slam dunk that it will be tossed. However so did Obamacare, and this is how I am trying to look at how SCOTUS will rule.
If SCOTUS used the circus reasoning that Obamacare is a tax within the governments purview then I fear one judge will side with Roberts and the liberals and do the circus gymnastics in their reasoning to say the Vaccine is a legitimate workplace requirement under OSHA. I am not saying it is but I do see SCOTUS trying to be all vaccine hip and friendly. I can see them being more concerned about what their ruling would have on the vaccine than our constitutional rights. Sad state we are in right now.
If SCOTUS used the circus reasoning that Obamacare is a tax within the governments purview then I fear one judge will side with Roberts and the liberals and do the circus gymnastics in their reasoning to say the Vaccine is a legitimate workplace requirement under OSHA. I am not saying it is but I do see SCOTUS trying to be all vaccine hip and friendly. I can see them being more concerned about what their ruling would have on the vaccine than our constitutional rights. Sad state we are in right now.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:02 pm to burger bearcat
No. The SCOTUS is more interested in killing the United States.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:14 pm to burger bearcat
What about all of the workers that have ALREADY been forced to take the shot?
They should be compensated, just like the illegal families!
THIS IS A HUGE CLUSTER F***!!!!!!!
They should be compensated, just like the illegal families!
THIS IS A HUGE CLUSTER F***!!!!!!!
Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:26 pm to burger bearcat
All they have to do is refuse to hear it and defer to the 5th. And its done.
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