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Woodward's form of AD "genius" is very expensive

Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:53 am
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:53 am
SW is a favorite on this site and a number of posters claim he is the best AD anywhere. I don't know how they arrived at this conclusion, but here are my data points:
1. He presided over the Jimbo Fisher contract at A &M which was huge, if not excessive.
2. He hired Mulkey and paid top dollar (clearly one of the top coaches, but also not far from retirement age;
3. Made a great Hire with Jay Johnson, at 5 yrs. 6.5 million pkg.
4. Extended Orgeron's contract, and paid Ed 8 plus million /yr.
5. Paid Ed the ENTIRE 17 million on buyout (This must be a record buyout?)
Posted by Rosenblatt
Member since Apr 2019
6294 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:55 am to
Is it your money ?
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18846 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:55 am to
A huge part of the job as AD is convincing donors to cover the big costs to be a championship caliber athletic department...obviously he's pretty good at that.
Posted by bosoxjo13
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
3350 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:55 am to
Hot take
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69543 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:56 am to
But he is one of us
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:57 am to
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Is it your money ?


How is this relevant to evaluating an AD’s job performance?
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
24590 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:58 am to
He needs to very expensively extend Will Wade ASAP
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34016 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:58 am to
So you think there is some secret database of coaches that are willing to work for below market rates?
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23241 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:58 am to
Because expenses are not the fans problems
Posted by Tiger2tiger97
Member since Jul 2021
664 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:11 am to
Actually it’s not a record. I don’t know if it’s a record, but Auburn paid Gus 21 million last year to take a hike!!
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13063 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:11 am to
Contrary to popular belief, LSU athletics relies on private and public funds. But like all institutions, its resources are limited. In fact they are more limited than some others in our conference and soon to be in our conference. We do not have an endless supply of money, even with donors and SEC TV money.
My view is that one measure of success of an AD is how well he manages the resources available to him.
The data suggests to me that SW leans toward expensive solutions.
And paying the entire $17 million payout is puzzling and underscores concerns that SW just throws money at problems.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:13 am to
quote:

1. He presided over the Jimbo Fisher contract at A &M which was huge, if not excessive.

That was a huge hire for A&M
quote:

He hired Mulkey and paid top dollar (clearly one of the top coaches, but also not far from retirement age;

AD pays top dollar for elite coaches, the horror!
quote:

Extended Orgeron's contract, and paid Ed 8 plus million /yr.

I certainly wouldn't have done it, but he's in a position where he needs to show other coaches how they will be treated. Win? You will get rewarded handsomely. Lose and you're toast.
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Paid Ed the ENTIRE 17 million on buyout

Again, the money didn't matter, and he wanted him gone. It was painless and quick.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:15 am to
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That was a huge hire for A&M


TAM fans were calling on Fisher's head until last week, that bought him a few more weeks. Of course, he has a huge buyout.

All you guys do is throw money around and act like it's genius. All those buyouts appear genius like, not.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 9:16 am
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17119 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:17 am to
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2. He hired Mulkey and paid top dollar (clearly one of the top coaches, but also not far from retirement age;

You know she's only 59, right? She's probably at least 10 years away from retirement. The past few national championships were won by coaches that are older, with exception of Mulkey and the South Carolina coach.

Active WBB coaches with a championship and current age
2021: Stanford - Tara VanDerveer - 68
2019: Baylor - Kim Mulkey - 59
2018: Notre Dame - Muffet McGraw - 65
2017: South Carolina - Dawn Staley - 51
2013-2016: UCONN - Geno Auriemma - 67
2012 - Baylor - Kim Mulkey
2011 - Texas A&M - Gary Blair - 76

So, yeah, I'd say Kim Mulkey has a long way to go before she's looking to retire.
Posted by Gnash
Cypress, Tx
Member since Oct 2015
9944 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:17 am to
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TAM fans were calling on Fisher's head until last week, that bought him a few more weeks. Of course, he has a huge buyout.

You’re blind if you can’t see Fisher has that program headed in the right direction. Every fan base has unreasonable fans.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72001 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:18 am to
The deal he agreed to for Jimbo was absolutely insane. But as someone else said, if he can convince donors to pony up, that’s a talent in and of itself.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
58511 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:20 am to
Who gives a frick, it doesn't affect you at all, who gives a shite how much it costs.
Posted by LSUinMA
Commerce, Texas
Member since Nov 2008
4946 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:20 am to
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nitwit


Checks out
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
58511 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:22 am to
quote:

Contrary to popular belief, LSU athletics relies on private and public funds. But like all institutions, its resources are limited. In fact they are more limited than some others in our conference and soon to be in our conference. We do not have an endless supply of money, even with donors and SEC TV money.
My view is that one measure of success of an AD is how well he manages the resources available to him.
The data suggests to me that SW leans toward expensive solutions.
And paying the entire $17 million payout is puzzling and underscores concerns that SW just throws money at problems.



How does it affect you or the program?

We are still gonna be able to pay the electric bill at the facilities.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 9:22 am
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:22 am to
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You’re blind if you can’t see Fisher has that program headed in the right direction. Every fan base has unreasonable fans.


Not really. The defense is nice though.

TAM will lose several more games this year.
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