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They're calling it a "settlement" but LSU completely laid down
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:17 am
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:17 am
If O is getting a "without cause" firing and 100% of his buyout, a better word would be surrender. Truly pathetic move on Woodward's part.
The amount of money we are paying to ex-coaches is an absolute scandal (and it's not unique to LSU) and I don't understand why there's no university in the entire country willing to stand up for itself
The amount of money we are paying to ex-coaches is an absolute scandal (and it's not unique to LSU) and I don't understand why there's no university in the entire country willing to stand up for itself
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Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:22 am to Cold Cous Cous
If the language (that I didn't read but saw people interpreting) of the contract is as projected, I can see it. Basically we paid him not to be able to come back on us for anything. The deal may also restrict future coaching options, especially for anyone who competes directly against us. IF all of that is true it's probably worth it.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:25 am to Cold Cous Cous
So you want a war.
You want an ugly firing, with cause, fights, lawyers, muck-racking, and all of the skeletons laid bare for the national media to salivate over and talk about ad nausia?
Because that's what you'd get.
Instead, we have an amicable parting of the ways, a mature parting of the ways and a team that realizes that it is about LSU and not any one person.
So if that is laying down, I'm fine with it.
You want an ugly firing, with cause, fights, lawyers, muck-racking, and all of the skeletons laid bare for the national media to salivate over and talk about ad nausia?
Because that's what you'd get.
Instead, we have an amicable parting of the ways, a mature parting of the ways and a team that realizes that it is about LSU and not any one person.
So if that is laying down, I'm fine with it.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:26 am to Cold Cous Cous
According to the Jerit Roser post, looks like he is getting around $7M...if that screenshot was authentic.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:26 am to Cold Cous Cous
Money wasn't an issue and LSU wanted him gone. Why create conflict where none needed to exist? Look, I agree that he didn't deserve the buyout money, but I wanted him gone and that being accomplished is the most important thing.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:28 am to Cold Cous Cous
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Truly pathetic move on Woodward's part.
He looks like he's feeling pretty good about his decision
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:28 am to panzer
I agree with Panzer.
And, “we” aren’t paying anything and LSU ( the university) is paying very very little.
I don’t get upset at what one man gets paid and what a group of wealthy people decide to pay him.
It was time for O to go and that has happened. Full stop.
And, “we” aren’t paying anything and LSU ( the university) is paying very very little.
I don’t get upset at what one man gets paid and what a group of wealthy people decide to pay him.
It was time for O to go and that has happened. Full stop.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:52 am to oldskule
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According to the Jerit Roser post, looks like he is getting around $7M...if that screenshot was authentic.
Apparently you aren't very good at math. His payouts equal about $17 million.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:57 am to Cold Cous Cous
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If O is getting a "without cause" firing and 100% of his buyout, a better word would be surrender. Truly pathetic move on Woodward's part.
If you fight the buyout, it goes to court…which mainly goes the coaches way. That’s a fact.
If you go to court it gets messy and more dirty laundry gets put out in the public.
If he’s fired for cause..that implicates LSU as well and could be put on probation. I don’t understand how some don’t understand that.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:07 am to bstew3006
O earned every bit of that money by bringing a Natty to LSU. He got the 2011 monkey off of our back and put together one of the greatest (if not the greatest) CFB teams ever assembled.
He seems content to rest on those laurels. LSU is happy to let him do so.
He seems content to rest on those laurels. LSU is happy to let him do so.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:09 am to panzer
Don’t forget the total monetary costs of that war would be north of $10 million pretty quickly.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:45 am to Cold Cous Cous
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Cold Cous Cous
Please tell us all about the behind closed doors discussions which you were clearly sitting in on.
Please explain to us plebes the details of his agreement.
Please post your vast AD history. Not your whole resume, just the blurbs from when you were an AD at a P5 school.
thanks
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:17 am to Cold Cous Cous
In our case Orgeron is flying cover for James Cregg. He was not fired by Orgeron per se. Orgeron was told to fire him. The Cregg issue is something no one wants to talk about.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:40 am to Cold Cous Cous
because it's not paid by the university!
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:43 am to panzer
quote:
So you want a war.
You want an ugly firing, with cause, fights, lawyers, muck-racking, and all of the skeletons laid bare for the national media to salivate over and talk about ad nausia?
Because that's what you'd get.
Instead, we have an amicable parting of the ways, a mature parting of the ways and a team that realizes that it is about LSU and not any one person.
So if that is laying down, I'm fine with it.
He gets it
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:47 am to Cold Cous Cous
None of us really know what the terms of the agreement are and how it's configured to pay out.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:56 pm to bstew3006
quote:
If you fight the buyout, it goes to court…which mainly goes the coaches way. That’s a fact.
If you go to court it gets messy and more dirty laundry gets put out in the public.
If he’s fired for cause..that implicates LSU as well and could be put on probation. I don’t understand how some don’t understand that.
The assumption here is that for all the dirt LSU has on O, O has equal & opposite dirt on LSU, and we wouldn't want that to come out.
This is exactly wrong. First, because I don't believe O has anything meaningful on LSU, and even if it exists O is too dumb to keep receipts. But even if it did exist, I'd rather it come out, because otherwise it's never going to stop. There's some kind of agreed-on code by ADs and coaches that nobody should ever be held accountable for anything they do, and it drives me nuts. No other business or institution operates this way.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 1:09 pm to Cold Cous Cous
Nobody surrendered, LSU honored it's contract. Nothing wrong with that.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 1:12 pm to Cold Cous Cous
My personal opinion putting the pieces together:
They came at him with a “fired with cause” threat in an attempt to negotiate the buyout down.
O “didn’t blink” and called their bluff
LSU paid in full to escape a circus. Which we all need to understand had to happen.
They came at him with a “fired with cause” threat in an attempt to negotiate the buyout down.
O “didn’t blink” and called their bluff
LSU paid in full to escape a circus. Which we all need to understand had to happen.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 10/18/21 at 1:14 pm to Cold Cous Cous
sure O has plenty of stuff on LSU unless you believe he was squeaky clean in his time here. Any sins of O and his regime, will ultimately fall on the school. So it would make sense to keep this all out of the courts
if LSU wanted to fire him for cause, the time to strike there was last offseason. The optics of it now would be messy and result in an ugly, drawn out divorce which would likely make your job less appealing to some candidates.
if LSU wanted to fire him for cause, the time to strike there was last offseason. The optics of it now would be messy and result in an ugly, drawn out divorce which would likely make your job less appealing to some candidates.
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