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Scott Must Be Waiting On The Investigation
Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:55 pm
Scott does have a history of waiting for coaches to finish the season before making a change. He did so at the last couple of stops.
That being said, LSU has a lot to lose here in terms of recruiting and player development. For those reasons, I think he should make a change.
However, there could be a smoking gun that is unknown to the fanbase that will allow him to move on for a much cheaper price. That's the logical reason I can find to put everybody through the charade.
That being said, LSU has a lot to lose here in terms of recruiting and player development. For those reasons, I think he should make a change.
However, there could be a smoking gun that is unknown to the fanbase that will allow him to move on for a much cheaper price. That's the logical reason I can find to put everybody through the charade.
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 2:01 pm to IowaCityTigerFan
he will fire ed as soon as it is advantageous to do so and not before
when coaches he likes are about to be free to talk to then ed will be fired just before that and not sooner
when coaches he likes are about to be free to talk to then ed will be fired just before that and not sooner
Posted on 10/11/21 at 2:02 pm to IowaCityTigerFan
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a lot to lose here in terms of recruiting
Firing Orgeron won't help with recruiting. Only hiring the new coach will.
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player development
You're going to have to help me understand this one. Firing the shitty head coach and leaving the shitty assistants in charge is going to help player development?
Posted on 10/11/21 at 2:07 pm to IowaCityTigerFan
Hanny talked about this and gave an amazing Breakdown on why this is a different situation from 2016, and why it’s not the best idea to do that this year. Or may not be. It sucks. But I think he has a lot of good points.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 10/11/21 at 2:10 pm to IowaCityTigerFan
Scott Woodward has put in an inquiry just a few days ago to the NCAA recently to possibly speed things up that could be associated with title 19.. they are looking to get out of owing Orgeron nothing from his buyout in his contract….
This post was edited on 10/11/21 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 10/11/21 at 2:11 pm to keakar
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when coaches he likes are about to be free to talk to then ed will be fired just before that and not sooner
This all day. But good luck getting these hothouse flowers to understand.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 2:17 pm to IowaCityTigerFan
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That being said, LSU has a lot to lose here in terms of recruiting and player development. For those reasons, I think he should make a change.
how would firing edO now instead of after the season help this?
i've been one of edO's biggest critics, but he was at the helm when LSU had arguably the greatest cfb season ever. he's gone, just root for the Tigers and take a load off the rest of the season.
we wouldn't be hiring a new coach til after the season anyway.
This post was edited on 10/11/21 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 10/11/21 at 2:17 pm to lovinLSU
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Scott Woodward has put in an inquiry just a few days ago to the NCAA recently to possibly speed things up that could be associated with title 19..
What does the NCAA have to do with Title IX? TIX applies to every student on campus and is not administered by NCAA…
Posted on 10/11/21 at 2:23 pm to IowaCityTigerFan
quote:Not really. Recruiting isn't remotely impacted by the canning timing - everyone knows he's gone and his replacement won't be known until after the season regardless. Today or after A&M makes no difference. What does make a difference on recruiting is the identification of his replacement. Development also isn't going to be magically get better because one member of the underachieving staff he hired gets a temporary promotion.
at being said, LSU has a lot to lose here in terms of recruiting and player development.
quote:We had the power to do it unilaterally for $21mm yesterday. The camps have to actually come to an agreement if we're going to cut that in half, and that isn't always a 24-48 hour turnaround. O in particular isn't the type to go quietly/quickly into the night.
That's the logical reason I can find to put everybody through the charade.
This post was edited on 10/11/21 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 10/11/21 at 2:24 pm to IowaCityTigerFan
I have no doubt Woodward has a plan, and there’s no doubt in my mind that it has to do with O’s buyout and trying to get out of it, and at the very least get it negotiated down at the appropriate time.
While firing O right now would appease some fans (inconsequential in the long run), they’re going to be very calculated about when they do it in regards to the buyout.
It’s just the smart thing to do.
I’m sure O’s people are telling him “don’t give them any additional ammunition” in the next few weeks. I personally think that’s why you saw a calmer/cooler Ed on the sideline against Kentucky.
I didn’t think they would fire after Kentucky, because then it would be hard to argue that you’re firing for cause.
While firing O right now would appease some fans (inconsequential in the long run), they’re going to be very calculated about when they do it in regards to the buyout.
It’s just the smart thing to do.
I’m sure O’s people are telling him “don’t give them any additional ammunition” in the next few weeks. I personally think that’s why you saw a calmer/cooler Ed on the sideline against Kentucky.
I didn’t think they would fire after Kentucky, because then it would be hard to argue that you’re firing for cause.
This post was edited on 10/11/21 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 10/11/21 at 2:25 pm to keakar
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when coaches he likes are about to be free to talk to then ed will be fired just before that and not sooner
He is already talking to coaches thru their agents. He is seeing who is interested and who isnt. What kind of compensation they are looking for. Coaching hires are rarely done face to face and almost always done thru back channels.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 2:44 pm to GetmorewithLes
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What does the NCAA have to do with Title IX? TIX applies to every student on campus and is not administered by NCAA…
Os contract and wording in it has everything to do with title 9. If guilty they can fire with cause and have no buyout.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 2:47 pm to keakar
Trust this gent.....right time will be soon!!
Posted on 10/11/21 at 2:48 pm to JPLSU1981
I get why Scott and the Admin don’t want to pull the trigger yet, but a counter argument is that they will lose a ton of money in the next few weeks by not moving on from him now, as most fans won’t show up to games. You can get some spark on interest back by an interim.
Also you are completely giving away this season. We have the talent to compete with several upcoming teams, but with this coaching we won’t win. The players very clearly quit on O last week. You would have several play hard for an interim and you may pull out a win or two in the coming weeks. With O at the helm, I don’t think we win another game, ULM included.
Also you are completely giving away this season. We have the talent to compete with several upcoming teams, but with this coaching we won’t win. The players very clearly quit on O last week. You would have several play hard for an interim and you may pull out a win or two in the coming weeks. With O at the helm, I don’t think we win another game, ULM included.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 2:50 pm to TheJuicey
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You can get some spark on interest back by an interim.
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You would have several play hard for an interim
I think you are severely overestimating the interim candidates
Posted on 10/11/21 at 2:51 pm to whitefoot
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Firing Orgeron won't help with recruiting. Only hiring the new coach will.
Stop making sense, people will hate it.
CEO getting canned right now would be the worst thing for the program and Woody knows it. Woody has time to compile his list and start putting out feelers behind the scenes. When CEO does get canned, rest assured that there will be no lag and the new hire will be announced quickly.
This post was edited on 10/11/21 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 10/11/21 at 2:53 pm to TheJuicey
I don’t think attendance money is a big concern. Most of that money for the rest of this season is already in the bank as the tickets are already bought and paid for.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 2:55 pm to IowaCityTigerFan
A blowout loss to Florida just might do the job. If not, surely a bad loss to a bad Ole Miss team will. If we keep getting blown out week after week with O it won’t help our reputation. At least blowouts are understandable with a rebuilding team.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 2:58 pm to lovinLSU
quote:Oh lawd this could be bad.
Scott Woodward has put in an inquiry just a few days ago to the NCAA recently to possibly speed things up that could be associated with title 19.. they are looking to get out of owing Orgeron nothing from his buyout in his contract….
Posted on 10/11/21 at 3:02 pm to IowaCityTigerFan
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However, there could be a smoking gun that is unknown to the fanbase that will allow him to move on for a much cheaper price. That's the logical reason I can find to put everybody through the charade.
This
He might actually be waiting on a win to fire him if he already has the evidence he needs so it doesn't appear he's firing him for his performance
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