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Heisman odds week 5.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 10:11 am
Posted on 9/27/21 at 10:11 am
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Weird that Max Johnson has more pass yards and TD's than JT Daniels and Spencer Rattler. More pass yards than Bryce Young and equal TD's.
But he isn't being mentioned? Why though? 3 INT's?
Weird that Max Johnson has more pass yards and TD's than JT Daniels and Spencer Rattler. More pass yards than Bryce Young and equal TD's.
But he isn't being mentioned? Why though? 3 INT's?
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 10:14 am to DUKE87
UCLA game left a bad taste in everyone's mouth. LSU wins that (with Max playing well). He is in the convo.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 10:14 am to DUKE87
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Why though
Because the Heisman is generally given to the best player on the best teams. It implies that not only are you a stat machine but you're also winning.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 10:14 am to DUKE87
Probably because of the ucla loss. Voters don’t vote for guys whose team loses games. Heisman is no what it used to be.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 10:16 am to DUKE87
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Heisman odds week 5
Irrelevant in September. If we continue to win and he continues to throw 3 TDs per game, he will eventually get in the convo.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 10:18 am to DUKE87
Because he's not a Heisman caliber qb? There aren't a lot of standouts this year but zero reason for him to be in that conversation.
Boutte is our only Heisman hope.
Boutte is our only Heisman hope.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 10:20 am to DUKE87
Heisman goes to best “most popular” player on best team these days. Doesn’t mean it’s the best player overall.
So unless Ole Miss beats Bama expect BY to win. Georgia doesn’t have a flash enough player to win.
So unless Ole Miss beats Bama expect BY to win. Georgia doesn’t have a flash enough player to win.
This post was edited on 9/27/21 at 10:21 am
Posted on 9/27/21 at 10:21 am to DUKE87
Raw stats don't tell much of a story. There's efficiency, competition and, of course, winning. I'm not surprised at all. If not for some fluky plays against MSU, it would have looked a lot different on the stat sheet, and people see that as well as we do. We can blame the offensive line for whatever, but Heisman contenders don't get many excuses. Just ask Leonard Fournette.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 10:22 am to DUKE87
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JT Daniels and Spencer Rattler. More pass yards than Bryce Young and equal TD's.
These are guys who were preseason favorites and can fall off.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 10:27 am to DUKE87
Young completes 8% more of his passes and averages almost a yard more per attempt and has 1 pick and his team is undefeated. He also has the Florida game on the books and that Miami game.
Daniels is a weird one. He’s thrown like 75 passes. More to do with UGA’s team success.
Daniels is a weird one. He’s thrown like 75 passes. More to do with UGA’s team success.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 10:27 am to DUKE87
Hype is huge when it comes to the Heisman.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 10:28 am to DUKE87
The stats may be good, but in no way does Max Johnson pass the eye test of being mentioned as a “great” player yet.
I agree with others that the UCLA loss hurt, but even had we won that game it doesn’t take an expert to see that Max has a ways to go before entering any conversation about best QBs in America. He’s not even one of the best QBs in the SEC yet.
Our passing stats are also skewed because all we can do is pass, this year at least.
I agree with others that the UCLA loss hurt, but even had we won that game it doesn’t take an expert to see that Max has a ways to go before entering any conversation about best QBs in America. He’s not even one of the best QBs in the SEC yet.
Our passing stats are also skewed because all we can do is pass, this year at least.
This post was edited on 9/27/21 at 10:29 am
Posted on 9/27/21 at 10:30 am to DUKE87
quote:UCLA game...bad INT, backwards pass, missed TD to Palmer. He didn't ooze Heisman in that game.
But he isn't being mentioned? Why though?
Posted on 9/27/21 at 10:55 am to DUKE87
The "it factor" player of the year
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:00 am to DUKE87
if it's just stats, then Timmy Chang or Colt Brennan should've won Heismans at Hawaii.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:04 am to DUKE87
Because how the whole team is playing and it’s LSU
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:08 am to DUKE87
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But he isn't being mentioned? Why though?
Pretty easy to notice that it's not based on stats alone. Daniels, Rattler, Young are all on undefeated teams & ranked in the top 5.
Max is +10000 so make your bet if you think he belongs up there.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:23 am to DUKE87
Bryce Young being even mentioned for the Heisman is so lazy.
He's just a Texas Tech quarterback throwing dinks and dunks. He rarely throws more than 10 yards down the field.
He's a good player, and I'm not taking away from him, but he's no superstar.
He's just a Texas Tech quarterback throwing dinks and dunks. He rarely throws more than 10 yards down the field.
He's a good player, and I'm not taking away from him, but he's no superstar.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:30 am to DUKE87
Simply because of UCLA lost.
UCLA then losing to Fresno will not help us in the rankings or for individual stats.
I think Max's game will only get better once we start really figuring out what plays he runs at an elite level, which ones he runs okay and which ones he cannot run.
UCLA then losing to Fresno will not help us in the rankings or for individual stats.
I think Max's game will only get better once we start really figuring out what plays he runs at an elite level, which ones he runs okay and which ones he cannot run.
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