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re: mRNA Vaccines Can Be Quickly Adjusted to Account for New Variants. Not So Fast My Friend!

Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22400 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:18 pm to
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I have no idea. I'm done making predictions on this.



The guy is obviously implying Moderna vaccine will essentially morph into basically what they do with the Flu vaccine. He is just setting the stage for this to happen every year with the need for boosters to stay ahead of the game.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83668 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:19 pm to
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The guy is obviously implying Moderna vaccine will essentially morph into basically what they do with the Flu vaccine. He is just setting the stage for this to happen every year with the need for boosters to stay ahead of the game.


I've always thought this would be the natural end of this

I think we will eventually have an annual combo flu/COVID shot
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22400 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:24 pm to
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I've always thought this would be the natural end of this

I think we will eventually have an annual combo flu/COVID shot


To be clear, I have no issue with that result IF it is handled how the current flu vaccine is handled; however, the precedence we are seeing now sure seems to lead to believe that won’t be the case.

Even though my understanding is previously having the flu doesn’t provide much of any protection from getting the flu again. That doesn’t appear to be the case with Covid.
This post was edited on 9/24/21 at 1:27 pm
Posted by Quintus
Member since Jun 2019
84 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 12:40 am to
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So citizens who work larger companies don't have the same protections as others??


It’s BS, but this is actually common with OSHA requirements.
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
5561 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:58 am to
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Why do you have to constantly criticize it?

Just live your life and let others do the same.

They won’t let us. And you’re enabling and supporting them.

My daughter-in-law, still nursing, is mandated by her employer to get vaccinated before she returns to work from maternity leave. Despite her choice to not be vaccinated based on her age, health, fitness, and absence of co-morbidities, and her reservations about the vaccines effectiveness and underreported adverse outcomes, she has, in effect, a loaded gun pointed to her head compelling her against her will.

Is that allowing her to “live her life”?

A friend’s daughter who worked hard through middle school and high school maintaining straight A grades, concentrating in science and math, playing softball, basketball, cheerleading, student government-all with an eye set early on to become a nurse, is being compelled by Southeastern to be vaccinated or drop out the program she’s enrolled in and has worked hard to reach. Is that letting her and her family “live their life”?

An OP here the other day or so confessed his employer was mandating vaccination or quit and the OP had little choice with family to support and bills to pay.

Physicians aren’t allowed to treat their patients with alternative protocols which would keep them out of hospitals and off of the virtual death sentence of ventilators.

The so called pandemic is being used as a loaded gun to manipulate and control people to do things they wouldn’t do otherwise.

You are not letting us live our lives freely. It’s just as much you as it is the damned socialists, autocrats, and bureaucrats.

Leave us alone!
Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
Member since Jan 2014
7017 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:01 am to
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Why do you have to constantly criticize it?

Because the government and big business is making it so that I can't feed my family without getting the jab. That's why.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262989 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:08 am to
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I have been called an antivaxxer 100 times and I support the development and use of Covid vaccines and mRNA tech.

We all side with idiots, including you.
Most people who use the term anti vaxxer are idiots.
Posted by phunkatron
Member since Jun 2019
1444 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:41 am to
I was under the impression you were actually gonna present some sort of evidence with that thread title.

Guess you're just a fricking moron.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30461 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:55 am to
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The vaccine is beneficial to some people. Why do you have to constantly criticize it?

Just live your life and let others do the same.




Don't you think your statement is a wee bit ironic? You say it's beneficial to some. Then why are the government and pro-vaxxers trampling everyone's rights.

And it's the anti-shot side who wants to be left alone. They're not asking/compelling anyone to do anything.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
8075 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 10:02 am to
When has the government ever mislead it's own people?

The government never lies.


Just trust the government and stop asking so many questions.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17541 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 10:11 am to
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Can you drive a car without a license? Registration? Can you turn left at a red stop light? Pick the speed at which you drive?


So an individuals personal healthcare decisions is equivalent to driving? I thought if you had the vaccine you are safe so why should you force the vaccine on others?
Posted by ProbyOne
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2004
1915 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 11:49 am to
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Sounds like they can adjust the vaccine quickly. But the regulatory and approval process can’t move fast enough to keep up with the new variants.


*safety process

Different mRNA sequences means different encoded proteins

Similar, sure. Different but safe? Probably. Potentially catastrophic? Probably no but maybe.


Years later China hacked our machines and encoded for a prion disease. Oops
Posted by Tiger in the Sticks
Back in the Boot
Member since Jan 2007
1451 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 1:05 pm to
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choose to get a bunch of vaccines or choose to not go to LSU a long time ago.


Just a ballpark response-how long had those vaccines been in existence?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98559 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 1:39 pm to
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And it's the anti-shot side who wants to be left alone. They're not asking/compelling anyone to do anything.


vaccine clinics halted after harassment
Posted by GallatinTiger
KY
Member since Apr 2004
2232 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 6:04 pm to
So, you're concerned enough about everyone's health to actually support people being fired over their objection to the vaccine, but you're still okay with someone just taking a different job to dodge the Vax? That's bogus. If we can dodge this by simply finding another job then the mandate has nothing to do with public health. It IS about the left controlling the masses. You leftists are complete pawns.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12746 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 6:48 pm to
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vaccine clinics halted after harassment

That's unfortunate, but how many more examples are there like this?

There's far more pressure being put on people that don't want to take the vaccine for valid reasons and just want to be left alone and allowed to make their own choice.

I'm in good health and in an age group that is largely unaffected by the severe cases and/or death. Yet I am still faced with either requesting a religious exemption that is likely to be declined; taking the vaccine; or losing my job. I don't have a problem with the vaccine, but I also don't see much benefit for myself at this point.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:06 pm to
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Can you drive a car without a license? Registration? Can you turn left at a red stop light? Pick the speed at which you drive?



This just might be the most ignorant f*cking attempt at an analogy I’ve ever seen in my entire f*cking life.

Seriously, no one should be THIS F*CKING STUPID.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3728 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:14 pm to
Congress is exempt from the vaccine,makes me wonder what they know that the average citizen doesn’t.
Also the 10s of thousands of immigrants crossing our border aren’t mandated,that’s total bulls__t IMO.
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 3:10 am to
Yes. Most of us will get the shot annually whether we like it or not.

buy shares of pfizer, moderna et al if you haven't already. They're going to the moon over the next 10 years.
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