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re: Bull Maher says he doesn’t want the booster shot

Posted on 8/25/21 at 7:43 am to
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
54312 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 7:43 am to
I would be inclined to agree with you, but I feel like we live in a time now where there is no healthy debate over something like the vaccine. MSM and big tech control the messaging and so any medical professional who speaks to the contrary is either banned or written off as a nutjob. This is how cults happen and Dems have turned into a cult that used to question everything and now does what big daddy government, MSM, and big tech tell them to. And the bottom line is that the vaccine probably does what you say -- reduce the effects if you get COVID, but the jury is out on how it is helping with spread. So, why do you care if others get the jab or not?
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 7:44 am
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
8985 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 7:49 am to
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Millennials


All this is is a play for viewership.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96699 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 7:52 am to
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He is fully aware of whats up, then. He got sold a bill of goods, and aint going down that path repeatedly


Huh? He was exposed, the virus entered his body, and the vaccine kept the virus from replicating and he had zero symptoms

What was the bill of goods he experienced there?
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 7:52 am to
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Literally every other vaccine has had the same requirements. You’ve had all kinds of other shots that you didn’t question.


Can you tell us what vaccines we've had to take a year or so after development of said vaccine started?

Especially taken to this level of govt mandates for a virus with a 99%+survival rate?

Christians definitely have valid concerns with the whole "must be marked to live your everyday life" mantra.
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 7:53 am
Posted by mb6355
Member since Apr 2020
199 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 8:26 am to
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Well then never seek medical treatment. Sure doctors make errors but they make a lot less errors than they have in the past. In the last 50-60 years US life expectancy has gone up nearly 10 years due to the advancement of medicine.


I don't. I am 53 and never been on prescription medication in my life. Most of the reasons one has to seek treatment is due to poor nutrition and lack of exercise. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I have the flu or flu like systems in the last 20 years.

And I would bet the reason for life expectancy increasing by 10 years has more to do with the environment and lifestyle than medicine. You can be softer than baby sh&t and get by today. For the most part no one struggles to get basic necessities in the US, you can get food delivered to your door and shelter paid for by someone else. Similar to zoo animals vs their counterparts in the wild. They live a lot longer too.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 8:34 am to
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It’s all a theory with no basis that you all are going by


Hey idiot, did you miss the part where the "experts" have LIED and been WRONG about almost everything to do with this pretendemic?

You are a useful Cov-Idiot.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 8:42 am to
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and the vaccine kept the virus from replicating and he had zero symptoms


Many unvaxxed have tested positive and had zero symptoms as well.
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22516 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 8:55 am to
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Their alligator mouths are about to get their hummingbird asses in some deep shite


And I hope it is sooner than they think, deeper, and shittier.
Posted by Lee Beauregard
NOLA
Member since May 2018
503 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:14 am to
Mayer is a member of the tribe your not allowed to speak about.

That scumbag has manipulated BOTH sides of the political arena, for ratings and clickbait, like the good little Marxist traitor that he is.
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 9:15 am
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15600 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:18 am to
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It's for everybody's protection. That's what they told the Jews when they loaded them on boxcars, to the gas chambers.


That is not what they told the Jews. Jews knew that they were hated and knew that they were likely going to a very bad place where they might die. And you’re not wide arse awake. You think you’re just as woke as all those people who thought they were woke during BLM and all that BS.
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15600 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:20 am to
Oh so you have been right this entire time? Then why aren’t you working in the medical field, or in a higher up position if you’re so smart?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:50 am to
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Oh so you have been right this entire time?


Compared to the experts, yes, I've been correct more than they have....thanks for asking.
Posted by Concerned Senior
New England
Member since Oct 2020
756 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:58 am to
There is no end game, well maybe for those who have been jabbed. Pharmaceuticals exist to make money period. Whether you live or die, is of no concern unless facing lawsuits. The government realized the potential to coerce millions into filling out paper ballots instead of voting in person, ballots that could be conveniently lost, tampered with, etc., to favor a certain outcome. A perfect marriage for both Pharma and government to benefit from a virus they claim is more lethal than your garden variety Flu. When all is said and done, we may have hospitals clogged with those suffering from adverse reactions and a one party system that will have a strangle-hold on us for eternity.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
52037 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 10:01 am to
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Literally every other vaccine has had the same requirements.


Wrong. The average FDA approval period ranges from 10-12 years with the vast majority of that being sequential testing phases. Animal testing along usually takes a full year with Phase I testing starting after then taking a year on its own. So normally at two years in you're somewhere in Phase I testing, finishing it up if you are ahead of the curve.

Phase I testing involves a very small group of test subjects and they are monitored very closely.

We're not even two years in yet and we've already jumped from animal testing to Phase IV, seeking to replace the quality of gauging possible long-term effects with sheer quantity of numbers (having these injected in well over 100M people in this country alone).

Even with all that testing, unforeseen issues can still arise, but the extra time in testing makes them far less likely.

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You’ve had all kinds of other shots that you didn’t question.


Which were well-tested prior to use, usually. But, hey... what's thousands of extra cases of GBS as long as you feel like it's making you safer.

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Your questioning almost every scientist and doctor, that have done a hell of a whole lot more studying and researching than any of us have been close to doing.


Other doctors have come out against rushing into this as well. Here are a few:

Roxana Bruno - PhD in Immunology, Researcher in Biochemistry, Immunology, Neuroinmunology and Genetics

Peter McCullough - Internist, Cardiologis, Epidemiologist, Professor of Medicine at Texas A&M College of Medicine

Teresa Forcades i Vila - MD, 2 medical PhD's

Alexandra Henrion-Caude - PhD in Molecular Biology and Genetics, Focus in Epigenetics and non-coding RNA and mitochondria, retired Director of Research at the French NIH

Professsor Sucharit Bhakdi - MD, Professor Emeritus of Medical Microbiology and Immunology, Former Chair, Institute of Medical Microbiology and Hygiene at Johannes Gutenberg University of Mainz

Dr Marco Chiesa - MD, FRCPsych, Consultant Psychiatrist and Visiting Professor at University College London

Dr C Stephen Frost - BSc, MBChB, Specialist in Diagnostic Radiology

Dr Margareta Griesz-Brisson - MD PhD, Consultant Neurologist and Neurophysiologist, Fellowship in Neurophysiology at Mount Sinai Medical Centre, PhD in Pharmacology with special interest in chronic low level neurotoxicology and effects of environmental factors on brain health, Medical Director of The London Neurology and Pain Clinic

Professor Martin Haditsch - MD PhD, Specialist in Hygiene and Microbiology, Virology, Epidemiology/Infectious Diseases, Infectious Diseases and Tropical Medicine, Medical Director of TravelMedCenter in Leonding, Austria

Professor Stefan Hockertz - Professor of Toxicology and Pharmacology, European registered Toxicologist, Specialist in Immunology and Immunotoxicology

Professor Ulrike Kämmerer - PhD, Associate Professor of Experimental Reproductive Immunology and Tumor Biology at the Department of Obstetrics and Gynaecology at University Hospital of Würzburg, Germany, Trained molecular virologist (Diploma, PhD-Thesis) and Immunologist. Currently engaged in active laboratory research (Molecular Biology, Cell Biology)

Dr Wolfgang Wodarg - Specialist in Pulmonary and Bronchial Internal Medicine, Hygiene and Environmental Medicine, Epidemiology, and Public Health; Honorary Member of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe and former Head of the Health Committee of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe

Dr Reem Abu-Sbaih - DO (Doctor of Osteopathy), Associate Professor Osteopathic Manipulative Medicine/ Neuromusculoskeletal Medicine New York Institute of Technology College of Osteopathic Medicine

Dr. Elizabeth Bastian - BSc (Genetics and Microbiology), MDCM, Family Medicine, General Practitioner in Oncology, sub specialty trained in Palliative Care

Rev. Reuben P. Bell, DO, MS, MDiv, PhD, Osteopathic family physician since 1982, Bachelors and Masters degrees in Zoology, formerly Director of Medical Humanities at the University of New England College of Osteopathic Medicine (including Molecular Genetics and Developmental Biology), M.Div. and Ph.D. in theological studies

Dr Francisco Lacruz Bescos - MD, PhD, Consultant Neurologist with special training and dedication to Neuroimmunology and Multiple Sclerosis

Professor David P. Capper - MD, FAAHPM, FACP, Internal Medicine, Hospice & Palliative Medicine, Professor and Chair, Department of Clinical Sciences, Director of Palliative Care at John Peter Smith Hospital

Dr Volker Christoffel - PhD in Biochemistry, Specialist in preclinical development

Dr David Critchley - BSc, PhD, Clinical Research Scientist with more than 30 years experience in Virology and Immunology

Prof. Dr Ciro Isidoro - Doctor of Science and Medical Doctor, Full Professor of Pathology, School of Medicine, Department of Health Sciences, Università del Piemonte Orientale

Dr Konstantinos Kakleas - MD, MRCPCH, MSc, PhD, Paediatric Allergy Consultant, Leicester Royal Infirmary Hospital

Dr Katrina Lewis - MD, BSc in Immunology and Physiological Chemistry, triple Board certified in Anesthesiology, Pain Medicine and Functional Medicine

... and I can go on.

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You’re all being politically driven for no reason what so ever, except out of stubbornness. Trump allowed this research and vaccine to come out.


If we're all Trump supporters and being politically driven, then by your own words we should be politically driven for this.

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It protects you from a serious case of covid.


It provides marginal protection. People who are vaccinated are still catching COVID and dying from it at rates far outside the norm.

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If more people are vaccinated, then the virus won’t be as serious on the majority of people


We were told that and then variants began breaking out at ludicrous speeds. Variants that magically bypass the vaccine and thus require a booster. The smart money says that the next variant will require a different booster, and so will the next and so will the next and so will the next... infinity. And we still don't know about possible long-term effects of the FIRST shot yet.

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because most people will have an immune system built up and ready to fight covid.


Here's the dirty little secret, most people have already fought off COVID whether vaccinated or not. The R0 of the virus (especially the Delta variant) combined with the activity level of people means it's everywhere.

If people want to get vaccinated, that's fine but acquiring natural immunity has proven to be every bit as effective as getting the jab, and at least this point doesn't seem to be causing VITT.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
3639 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 10:02 am to
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that if he died then so be it because he lived his life and kids should be allowed to live theirs


This is music to my ears at this point.

Get out of the way, Boomers. Stop telling us what to do.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39751 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 10:04 am to
How in hell does anyone realistically think we can get 300MM Americans revaxxed every 8 months into eternity? This is all bogus on its face
Posted by BusterW
LA.
Member since Jul 2021
307 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 10:18 am to
I'm woke enough to see where all this is headed,And i'm not buying any of it. Let BLM come to my house
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
16291 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 11:50 am to
Bard,



My wife and I are both physicians and we cannot believe the level of propaganda over the COVID vaccines.

An MD or PhD today (that questions the vaccine) will face extreme scrutiny and loss of income - over what should be a healthy scientific debate.

I never thought I would live to see something like this.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 11:58 am to
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Get out of the way, Boomers.


Hey kid, you stand on the shoulders of giants.

Whatever bad things they have done, the Boomers are responsible in large part for Western Civilization and all the consumer goodies idiots like you crave...

Say "thank you" then STFU....
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 12:28 pm to
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He's a pedophile.


First time hearing this. Can you elaborate?
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