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Pelicans Win Total: 40.5
Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:24 am
Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:24 am
According to Caesar's. What say Pels Talk?
Yall already known I'm gonna hammer the over, but it's interesting that the Nets, the highest win total, are projected to only win 54.5, due to Vegas taking resting of star players into consideration.
Yall already known I'm gonna hammer the over, but it's interesting that the Nets, the highest win total, are projected to only win 54.5, due to Vegas taking resting of star players into consideration.
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Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:28 am to whatiknowsofar
Over
Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:36 am to whatiknowsofar
Over
The cap locks will be stuck on.
The cap locks will be stuck on.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:48 am to whatiknowsofar
Not sure if the line moved or it's just a different sports book, but someone posted betonlineag a few days ago and they had 38.5 IIRC.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:57 am to TigerinATL
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few days ago and they had 38.5 IIRC.
I've seen a few booking sites use 38.5. Caesars is the highest I've seen so I chose them for this exercise
Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:59 am to TigerinATL
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Pelicans Win Total: 40.5
Posted on 8/21/21 at 11:03 am to whatiknowsofar
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Caesars is the highest I've seen so I chose them for this exercise
Right, but for the people looking to actually bet the Over, they should probably shop around.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 12:06 pm to whatiknowsofar
Over. I think we are 43-39 next year.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 12:21 pm to whatiknowsofar
if the pels win the games they “should” win by playing hard all the time and playing defense then 40 should be in the rear view mirror
Posted on 8/21/21 at 12:29 pm to whatiknowsofar
Yeah, the dominant narrative is that we traded away a budding all-star in Lonzo and replaced him with Carolina's scrub that they didn't want anymore. The betting lines are set up for the many "somewhat informed" people to lose money -- the people who know just enough to lose.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 12:36 pm to whatiknowsofar
I might bet the under so if this team is frustrating as hell again, I at least make some profit on it lol.
TBH, I generally try to stay away from betting games/teams I am emotionally tied to unless I know they are trash and likely to lose.
It’s silly, but I never want to feel like I jinx a team I like by betting on them to win.
TBH, I generally try to stay away from betting games/teams I am emotionally tied to unless I know they are trash and likely to lose.
It’s silly, but I never want to feel like I jinx a team I like by betting on them to win.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 12:41 pm to whatiknowsofar
Under.
I don't get the optimism, other than wishful thinking.
Worst backcourt in the league, lost our 3 best defensive players (all 3 starters), no above average defenders, questionable bench, 6th man that is half out the door, rookie coach and all new staff. Our Superstar has injury issues and will need to be held out at times.
12th place..
I don't get the optimism, other than wishful thinking.
Worst backcourt in the league, lost our 3 best defensive players (all 3 starters), no above average defenders, questionable bench, 6th man that is half out the door, rookie coach and all new staff. Our Superstar has injury issues and will need to be held out at times.
12th place..
Posted on 8/21/21 at 12:50 pm to brmark70816
So you’re saying losing our backcourt that included Eric Bledsoe and a great guy but obviously declining Steven Adams is a bad thing? Well that’s an interesting take to say the least. Also our 6th man just signed a 3 year extension that’s team friendly so the only way he’s got one foot out the door is if we decide to trade him in January.
This post was edited on 8/21/21 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 8/21/21 at 1:07 pm to brmark70816
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Under.
I don't get the optimism, other than wishful thinking.
Worst backcourt in the league, lost our 3 best defensive players (all 3 starters), no above average defenders, questionable bench, 6th man that is half out the door, rookie coach and all new staff. Our Superstar has injury issues and will need to be held out at times.
12th place..
you must be a blast at parties
Posted on 8/21/21 at 1:17 pm to geauxtigers87
Half the time, I am convinced the brmark is a troll, and the other half of the time, I think that he just isn't very bright. I can never really decide which it is?
Eric Bledshit was one of our top defensive players last season? That's got to go in the top trolls of all time conversation.
Eric Bledshit was one of our top defensive players last season? That's got to go in the top trolls of all time conversation.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 1:22 pm to LSUJD_04
PG- Graham, Lewis, Satornosky
SG- NAW, maybe Hart, Didi, Temple
Name a worse backcourt in the NBA
SG- NAW, maybe Hart, Didi, Temple
Name a worse backcourt in the NBA
Posted on 8/21/21 at 1:23 pm to brmark70816
I’ll play along…
Can you please name a worse backcourt than Bledsoe and Ball were last year? Please tell me one team that we had a backcourt advantage against last season. Graham has already had a season where he averaged more points than Ball ever has and NAW can be below average and still be better than Bledsoe was, just by trying. It won’t be a huge upgrade but I bet they don’t have debacles like Ball and Bledsoe did at the end of the Knicks game.
Val should be an improvement, especially offensively. Ingram and Zion should be better than they were a year ago. Players as special as Zion continue to get better when they are entering their 21 year old season.
Willie will be an improvement from a culture standpoint. The fact that he had guys who have already had significant NBA time playing that hard in summer league is the thing I was most excited about.
No one here is projecting 60+ wins. But 41 wins is a .500 team. Anything less than that with no injuries, would be a significant failure. I really don’t understand your take at all.
Can you please name a worse backcourt than Bledsoe and Ball were last year? Please tell me one team that we had a backcourt advantage against last season. Graham has already had a season where he averaged more points than Ball ever has and NAW can be below average and still be better than Bledsoe was, just by trying. It won’t be a huge upgrade but I bet they don’t have debacles like Ball and Bledsoe did at the end of the Knicks game.
Val should be an improvement, especially offensively. Ingram and Zion should be better than they were a year ago. Players as special as Zion continue to get better when they are entering their 21 year old season.
Willie will be an improvement from a culture standpoint. The fact that he had guys who have already had significant NBA time playing that hard in summer league is the thing I was most excited about.
No one here is projecting 60+ wins. But 41 wins is a .500 team. Anything less than that with no injuries, would be a significant failure. I really don’t understand your take at all.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 1:36 pm to ThePistol
Sure. Most of the high lottery teams sat all their starters and were playing street FAs by the end of the year. But Bledsoe and Ball were very bad. Did we get better? I don't think we did and other teams got better (like Houston).
Graham is a slight improvement to Bledsoe, especially considering their attitudes. I didn't want Bledsoe last year. But others on here swore he was only a slight step down from Holiday and a defensive ace. He was not good. But he did show up, led the team in games and minutes.
NAW might be a lateral move from Ball, being optimistic. But who takes his role and minutes? He was our 3rd guard. We have sketchy depth after the Graham and NAW. I don't think Lewis is ready and the others are journeymen.
It's the worst in the league IMO. You can't have a winning team with a bottom 5 backcourt.
Graham is a slight improvement to Bledsoe, especially considering their attitudes. I didn't want Bledsoe last year. But others on here swore he was only a slight step down from Holiday and a defensive ace. He was not good. But he did show up, led the team in games and minutes.
NAW might be a lateral move from Ball, being optimistic. But who takes his role and minutes? He was our 3rd guard. We have sketchy depth after the Graham and NAW. I don't think Lewis is ready and the others are journeymen.
It's the worst in the league IMO. You can't have a winning team with a bottom 5 backcourt.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 2:22 pm to brmark70816
It is not a stretch to say that NAW was a better player than Bledsoe last season, especially when they both played as starters. Graham has been an 18ppg scorer in the role he will be asked to fill here.
As far as depth goes, we can put in any of Hart, Murphy, Marshall, or Lewis. They should all be better than a year ago. We all know that Hart’s contract is structured to be traded, but he will only be traded for an upgrade. Then, our front court has two all stars, including an all nba level player. It’s not a championship roster but it is better fitting than last year. Plus, this team ultimately goes as Zion and Ingram go, and they should both be improved.
As far as depth goes, we can put in any of Hart, Murphy, Marshall, or Lewis. They should all be better than a year ago. We all know that Hart’s contract is structured to be traded, but he will only be traded for an upgrade. Then, our front court has two all stars, including an all nba level player. It’s not a championship roster but it is better fitting than last year. Plus, this team ultimately goes as Zion and Ingram go, and they should both be improved.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 2:34 pm to brmark70816
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You can't have a winning team with a bottom 5 backcourt.
Lakers won a championship with that formula two seasons ago, so I disagree.
I agree in that people, as they often do in the offseason, are assuming good to best case scenarios for everything and everyone and it is very possible that we are over valuing a 14 game sample size of NAW as a starter and Graham is going to be a sieve and a starter that isn’t really conducive to winning basketball in that role.
That Willie Green ends up looking more like Orlando Magic Jacque Vaughn instead of Tyronn Lue. Zion and Bi still struggle to build quality winning basketball chemistry. That we lose one of our two stars to injury for an extended period of time. JV takes a step back from a less than ideal role and situation for his skillset.
All of those are distinctly possible scenarios and while it’s easy and feels good to assume everything falling into place in the ideal way, all of the above is very much possible. But likewise it’s very possible(and slightly more likely given youth development) that we are a notably improved team for the simple fact of internal growth of two young superstars and actually having a full offseason and reasonable NBA schedule that a young team like ours desperately needed last season.
This post was edited on 8/21/21 at 2:37 pm
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