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I can't rewatch games with Jordan Jefferson.

Posted on 7/27/21 at 2:54 pm
Posted by Beauxcefus
Member since Apr 2021
157 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 2:54 pm
I simply can't stomach watching a team that was absolutely loaded look so inept.

It's actually painful, and a little embarrassing.

I would rather have had Russell Shepard at QB. He could not have been any worse.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
71072 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 2:55 pm to
I have no problem rewatching some of those games. Like the SEC championship against Georgia or the Arkansas game. Tyrann Mathieu is possibly the most fun player to watch on defense I've ever seen.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
51137 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 2:56 pm to
Jordan Jefferson fumbled so Justin could fly
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28745 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 2:59 pm to
First, he graduated nearly 10 years ago...let it go. There have been worse LSU QBs.

Second, it's hard for me to blame ANY LSU QB from 2009 - 2016 (perhaps a few years longer) for poor play as the general philosophy on offense was to avoid the middle of the field in the passing game at all costs and handcuff every QB with the most risk averse offense possible.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71964 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 2:59 pm to


Some of ya'll mofos need to move up a decade
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18194 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

I simply can't stomach watching a team that was absolutely loaded look so inept.
Jefferson wasn't great, but it wasn't all his fault - he was severely hampered by Les Miles' archaic offensive schemes.

Not saying Jefferson would've flourished in a Brady-type offense, but Les handcuffed a lot of our offensive talent.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73181 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 3:02 pm to
2010 Alabama game is fun af to watch

especially that TD to Randle, absolute dart right on target
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
12583 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

I simply can't stomach watching a team that was absolutely loaded look so inept.


It’s tough to Stomach

quote:

It's actually painful, and a little embarrassing.


Agreed

quote:

I would rather have had Russell Shepard at QB. He could not have been any worse.


This is where you’re wrong. Could have had Joe B and a LM offense still would have struggled. It’s amazing what a little innovation would have done.

Don’t blame the players…as LM always did and a lot of Les apologist did…it was 1000% coaching. LM never took accountability about the lack of offensive production…it was always “execution”
This post was edited on 7/27/21 at 3:07 pm
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
5441 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 3:07 pm to
Yes true but there wasn’t worse QBs with so much talent around them, where every expert, fan, and players said if LSU had a QB (JJ) would be unstoppable than when he was the QB of a top 5 team in the country.
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
12452 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

Not saying Jefferson would've flourished in a Brady-type offense, but Les handcuffed a lot of our offensive talent.



This x 1000

I think a creative offensive scheme would have been very interesting. It's sad to look back at some of the offenses Les had with the talent we had.
Posted by PhillyTiger90
Member since Dec 2015
10760 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

Arkansas game. Tyrann Mathieu is possibly the most fun player to watch on defense I've ever seen.


One of my top 5 favorite memories watching him was the Punt Return for a TD. But not bc of the TD; when the Arky punter cheap shotted him after he scored, the punter got his clock cleaned by one of our ST guys. fricking loved that team
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 3:16 pm to
I blame Miles more than anyone
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
9190 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 3:17 pm to
The 2011 Arkansas game was awesome. I think I remember him playing one of his best games against them after we started slowly due to that fluke fumble TD by (I think) Ford.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30618 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

Like the SEC championship against Georgia


LSU did not get it’s first 1st down until the third quarter vs UGA.

Any other coach in the country would have benched Jefferson here but not Les. Jefferson did the exact same thing for his very next game…….21-0.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16658 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 3:22 pm to
I can watch the '10 Bama game any day. Hasn't gotten old yet.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18194 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

Could have had Joe B and a LM offense still would have struggled. It’s amazing what a little innovation would have done.
correct.

A prime example is 2018, where we had Burrow, Brossette, Helaire, Justin Jefferson, Chase, Marshall, Dillon, Sullivan, and most (if not all) of our OL. In other words, the talent from our 2019 offense was all there in 2018, but under Ensminger's offense.

And the results were very pedestrian.

Coaching and scheme makes a HUGE difference.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
71072 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

LSU did not get it’s first 1st down until the third quarter vs UGA.


And LSU beat Georgia like a rented mule.

If you don't have a good time watching the defensive performers on the field during that era, I don't know what to tell you.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32743 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 3:33 pm to
Worst to me is still the sec championship game before 21-0

Wasn’t he like 4-23 with 2 INTs

I will say in Jordan’s defense his pass plays were almost always with 2 WR routes and one was always a go

We never schemed up anyone.

We just out-talented teams for a decade with Les
This post was edited on 7/27/21 at 3:35 pm
Posted by SA4LSU
AZ
Member since Sep 2005
4116 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 3:33 pm to
My fondest memory is when he took it distance of the field from around goal line I think against Tennessee.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30618 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

And LSU beat Georgia like a rented mule.

If you don't have a good time watching the defensive performers on the field during that era, I don't know what to tell you.


Go watch the first half. It will be enough to beat your head against the wall.

Jefferson stats in the SEC championship:
5-13, 30 yards passing. 6 carries for -5 yards rushing.

Bama ready!!!!

Thanks Les

For the game:
First downs: UGA= 19 LSU= 13

LSU was outplayed but won the turnover margin.
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