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re: I can't rewatch games with Jordan Jefferson.

Posted on 7/28/21 at 12:20 pm to
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 12:20 pm to
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During one of the “Coaches Show” when bama was playing clemson…they asked LM “you've played Alabama/Saban more than anyone here, what was your strategy?” His response, “we would identify their best strength and attack it”.

Let that sink in
Honestly, people need to stop freaking out about that, because it's the correct answer.

When Saban took over Alabama, LSU and Florida (with Tebow) were the best teams in the conference. What were LSU and Florida's best strengths? Power running, right up your face, and break your defense. What did Saban do? He attacked that, built teams to completely stonewall the line of scrimmage.

Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18136 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 12:44 pm to
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Honestly, people need to stop freaking out about that, because [attacking the opponent's strength] is the correct answer.

When Saban took over Alabama, LSU and Florida (with Tebow) were the best teams in the conference. What were LSU and Florida's best strengths? Power running, right up your face, and break your defense. What did Saban do? He attacked that, built teams to completely stonewall the line of scrimmage.
uh, no.

Your Saban argument is horribly flawed. Defending against your opponent's strengths isn't the same as "attacking their strengths."

Miles did the dumb thing - identify Bama's defensive strength, and then run straight into it, with extreme predictabilty.

No sane coach does this - it's why coordinators work 20 hours a day watching film and finding ways to negate their opponent's strength.

It's why teams rarely threw to Dion Sanders' side of the field. Les Miles' philosophy would be to do exactly that.

This post was edited on 7/28/21 at 12:47 pm
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18136 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 12:54 pm to
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Have you not heard that old saw "bend but not break"? And to say "utter nonsense" indicates you've never played a down of football, at any level.
saying that a team that got outgained 600-0 outplayed their opponents is simply beyond all comprehension.

But hey, you stick with it.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54566 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 2:29 pm to
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saying that a team that got outgained 600-0 outplayed their opponents is simply beyond all comprehension.

But hey, you stick with it.


yea don’t argue with that idiot. His point is one of the dumbest things I’ve seen on this board
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68612 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 2:58 pm to
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yup

i heard it when he said

" WE MUST ATTACK THE STRENGTH"

fricker was looney tunes crazy and retarded


Beat them 5 times. Got screwed in at least another 3 of those by the refs. And was never given a rematch like Lord Saban was.



This post was edited on 7/28/21 at 3:01 pm
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18136 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 3:04 pm to
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[Les Miles] beat [Alabama] 5 times. Got screwed in at least another 3 of those by the refs.
context, as always, is needed.

Two of Miles' wins against Bama were when Mike Shula was there, and they weren't good.

One of Miles' wins against Saban was in Saban's first year at Bama, when he was rebuilding.

After that, and the talent on each team was about equal, Miles lost 7 of 9.

Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26161 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 3:09 pm to
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saying that a team that lost 35-0 outplayed their opponents is simply beyond all comprehension

Fixed it for you.
This post was edited on 7/28/21 at 3:10 pm
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18136 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 4:07 pm to
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Fixed it for you.
once again, you're focusing only on the final score and not on the underlying facts that I put in my hypothetical.

You're not being intellectually honest here, but that's fine. I expected it.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26161 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 7:38 pm to
My fumble return for a touchdown > your 90 yard drive with nothing to show for it. If that sh*te happens all game long, no one will remember those 600 yds. amassed between the twenties. Just the final score.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18136 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:09 pm to
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My fumble return for a touchdown > your 90 yard drive with nothing to show for it. If that sh*te happens all game long, no one will remember those 600 yds. amassed between the twenties. Just the final score.
all that may be true…. and still doesn’t explain who outplayed who.

It’s obvious to all knowledgeable football fans that a team that outgains the other team 600-0 has outplayed that team.

But if you want to die on this hill, go for it.
Posted by chaso
clinton ms.
Member since Aug 2006
2775 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:17 pm to
Then use your remote and turn it off, Where did you play....Sport
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
18816 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:46 pm to
Watch the 2011 Bama game...he won it.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40802 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 9:57 pm to
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once again, you're focusing only on the final score


It's the only thing that fricking matters.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260483 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:01 pm to
Why blame JJ for Les Miles incompetence?
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:30 pm to
I couldn’t watch the first time, Miles should have been fired solely on the decision to play him
Posted by tiggah1981
Winterfell
Member since Aug 2007
17041 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:44 pm to
JJ time at lsu will always be remembered for that stupid toss right to the bama player in the ship

one of the dumbest plays i’ve ever witnessed and wasnt even surprised he did it

y’all placing a lot of blame on miles…

but JJ just flat sucked…i dgaf what coach taught him he just wasn’t any good
This post was edited on 7/28/21 at 11:27 pm
Posted by LCTFAN
New Iberia
Member since Mar 2013
2739 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 6:18 am to
agreed
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32746 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:19 am to
We’ve certainly had some troubling QB play. Hatch, Lee, Etling.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18136 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 8:38 am to
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It's the only thing that fricking matters.
not even close to being true. Everyone knows the final score doesn't always tell the true tale about how a team is playing.

For example, if we win our first few games 21-17, but all our points were scored by the defense and our offense gains little yardage, the coaches and fans shouldn't be happy, just because we're winning.

We should all be greatly alarmed, and the coaches should make drastic changes to the offense because we'll need it when we play the better teams on our schedule.

Merely looking at the scoreboard at the end of the game and letting those two numbers solely determine how the team is playing (and whether a change is required) is far, far too simplistic.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34141 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:31 am to
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I would rather have had Russell Shepard at QB. He could not have been any worse.


This is who we should have used in the title game. It was obvious that Bama had trouble with dual threat QB’s. We had a month to prepare. For those saying that you don’t change your offense that late, I would say...what offense?
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 9:32 am
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