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re: Looking like the masterminds behind the Whitmer Kidnapping plot may have been FBI agents

Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
17957 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:12 pm to
Your politics skew your judgement, I try not to see every aspect of life through a political lens personally.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 1:14 pm
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
2987 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:16 pm to
Another false Democrat flag.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:17 pm to
your first post in this thread was political

With all the things weve found out about the FBI and CIA since their inceptions, is it really that far fetched the FBI was mostly responsible for this?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72368 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:18 pm to
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Another false Democrat flag.
This isn’t even a Dem vs Rep issue.

This is an FBI issue.

The big question is now, how many “foiled terrorist plots” in the past were simply FBI PR stunts?

Find a person or group, convince them to undertake an action, and then arrest them.

We already know of multiple people who were on their watchlist that were allowed to go about their business.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 1:21 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263099 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:35 pm to
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Your politics skew your judgement,


Like when people say black people don't trust police?

LINK

quote:

8) For example, the FBI has been caught multiple times planning terrorist plots for targets to foil. When the FBI has trouble getting an informant to cooperate, it simply frames them.


The FBI and CIA are the most corrupt groups on the planet, and have little accountability.

Politics..
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 1:38 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69270 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:38 pm to
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I don't defend terrorists whether they are Republican or Democrat. Can you say the same?


What do you think about James Hodgkinson?

Although the fbi doesnt think hes a terrorist and dont know his motive.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263099 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

This isn’t even a Dem vs Rep issue.


Bingo.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263099 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:40 pm to
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I don't defend terrorists


You're defending the FBI. Same thing.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119916 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:44 pm to
The election is over. The truth doesn't matter anymore.
Posted by shspanthers
Nashville, TN
Member since Sep 2007
776 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:09 pm to
They’ve been doing it since Ruby Ridge at least.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135180 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:15 pm to
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Your politics skew your judgement, I try not to see every aspect of life through a political lens personally.



The FBI and CIA completely manufactured an international scandal so they could spy on a presidential candidate in order to derail his potential presidency/presidency, have him impeached, and attempt to have him jailed along with his entire family.

Nothing happened to them after they did this, so they continue to do shite like this.

Hell, the FBI, CIA, and ATF all worked together to funnel guns to Mexican cartels from US gun stores with a secondary mission of enacting massive gun control policies. And what happened to those people even after it was revealed that one of the weapons they ran to Mexico was used to kill a BP agent? You guessed it - absolutely nothing.

We have FBI agents as well as paid informants creating a plot against a governor so they can arrest people that go along with the plan. And they did it in order to influence the election in a crucial battleground state.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 2:17 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263099 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:17 pm to
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They’ve been doing it since Ruby Ridge at least.


Yep. Way before that too.

The FBI has a long history of recruiting informants, asking them to do really shitty stuff and then framing them if they decline.

LINK

Leftists despise FBI

Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36392 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:21 pm to
The same folks who criticized Bush, the Patriot Act, the War on Terror and its excesses (all rightfully so) 2 decades ago are now fully aligned with the alphabet agencies and the surveillance state. The same people who claim to want police defunded reflexively defend the worst offenders, because their targets are conservative. But Trump is fascist right? Frick CrimsonFever and his bootlicking allies.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48351 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:25 pm to
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don't see anywhere that they say its FBI Agents? It looks like informants - in others words convicts that give information to the FBI from the seedy side.


When an informant moves from just giving information to actively setting in place plans of action, the cease to be an informant and become an agent of the person whose biding they are doing.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48351 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:27 pm to
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I don't defend terrorists whether they are Republican or Democrat. Can you say the same?


You are quite literally defending the FBI right now while there is significant evidence of a false flag operation.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263099 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:28 pm to
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The same folks who criticized Bush, the Patriot Act, the War on Terror and its excesses (all rightfully so) 2 decades ago are now fully aligned with the alphabet agencies and the surveillance state.


Which goes to show you the only ideology these people have is to be opposite of what conservatives support.

The Border situation is another, leftists were anti illegal immigration until conservatives were against it. Now, they support it.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

The same folks who criticized Bush, the Patriot Act, the War on Terror and its excesses (all rightfully so) 2 decades ago are now fully aligned with the alphabet agencies and the surveillance state. The same people who claim to want police defunded reflexively defend the worst offenders, because their targets are conservative. But Trump is fascist right? Frick CrimsonFever and his bootlicking allies.



they actively cheer it on
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135180 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:30 pm to
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You are quite literally defending the FBI right now while there is significant evidence of a false flag operation.


Here's the generally accepted definition of terrorism:

The unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims


The FBI was quite literally engaged in terrorism.
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
17957 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:46 pm to
A lot of people think the FBI set up these guys, the FBI was responsible for Jan 6th , that covid was released so Trump wouldn't get reelected. The media told nothing but lies about Trump, that the election was rigged and Trump wouldve won. That the vaccine is some kind of democrat conspiracy that I cant even understand. It's enough to make a persons head spin trying to keep up with all the ways Republicans and Trump have been wronged, not one bit of it is his fault or republicans fault, its all other peoples fault.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 2:49 pm
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56650 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:46 pm to
Obama turned every federal agency into an attack dog/tool of the far left. We're in his little occupied territory now.
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