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re: LSU's best coaching hires of all time?

Posted on 7/14/21 at 12:13 pm to
Posted by drdrfaulkner19
Lynn Haven, FL
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 7/14/21 at 12:13 pm to
I personally don't think we can make a list without considering the ENTIRE history of LSU sports. The earliest coach I saw listed was Paul Dietzel, but there were many coaches in the decades before him, and we don't have their resumes to consider. Many years ago, I had a book on Football by Dana X. Bible, but he didn't win a Natty at LSU. I don't consider Saban a top-three, but--as far as resumes/reputations I have seen-- Kim Mulkey would be #1, Skip #2, and Bo Rein #3.
Posted by wheelz007
Denham Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2010
3386 posts
Posted on 7/14/21 at 12:27 pm to
Right now it's

1.) Skip Bertman
2.) Nick Saban

Dietzel or McClendon would be next. We can add Mulkey in 3,4 or 5 years once she's made an impact, won some games, IMO.

Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12400 posts
Posted on 7/14/21 at 12:41 pm to
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Coach O has had his ups and downs since he took over.


As compared to which coaches.
He has beaten Debo, Smart, Lincoln Riley, Saban, Mullen
when it counted.
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 7/14/21 at 1:00 pm to
O had the dream season in 2019 and I'm pulling for him. He has 2 bad losses to Mississippi State.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12400 posts
Posted on 7/14/21 at 1:09 pm to
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Have to disagree with this. The team was pretty dang good. The coaching was really mediocre. Running a extremely outdated


Ok! I'll Name, Burrow, Clyde, Jefferson, Chase, Marshall, Stingly. Who did Miles leave in those positions.
The WRs Miles left were either out or were riding the bench.
Posted by Tallpaul
Member since Sep 2016
26 posts
Posted on 7/14/21 at 1:14 pm to
Skip Bertman and Pat Henry would like to have a word with you.
Posted by HotBoudin
Metry
Member since Sep 2003
903 posts
Posted on 7/14/21 at 1:23 pm to
1) Skip Bertman
2) Nick Saban
3) Paul Dietzel

/end discussion
Posted by Purple Tiger King
Member since Jan 2021
2016 posts
Posted on 7/14/21 at 3:05 pm to
Then Ed O is the winner hands down. As he already went 15 & 0 to win a Natty in only his third season with the greatest college football team EVER in history and at the same time, reeled in a $55 million dollar windfall for the university, he has had three top five recruiting classes for the past three years in a row, and he also has a best in the country 13 & 5 win/loss record against AP poll Top-10 opponents.

As Ed O is easily the LSU hire of the century so far, as far as football is concerned.

In fact, I bet no one can name another head football coach in the country that can top Ed O's impressive record of success in only four years at LSU. If you can, then let's hear it.

This post was edited on 7/14/21 at 5:44 pm
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
29557 posts
Posted on 7/14/21 at 3:26 pm to
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Then Ed O is the winner hands down. As he already won a Natty in only his third season with the greatest college football team EVER in history and at the same time, reeled in a $55 million dollar windfall for the university, he has had three top five recruiting classes for the past three years in a row, and he also has a best in the country 13 & 5 win/loss record against AP poll Top-10 opponents.

As Ed O is easily the LSU hire of the century so far, as far as football is concerned.

In fact, I bet no one can name another coach in the country that can top Ed O's success in only four years at LSU. If you can, then let's hear it.


This has to be a troll, right?

Ed hasn't done a bad job by any means, but his four years are as follows: Years 1 & 2 he took over a good program and maintained the status quo from the Miles era (9 win seasons). He had a tremendous 2019...followed by the worst LSU season in 20 years.

Saban took over a LSU program that had just finished 3-8 (1-7 in SEC play) and only had three winning seasons, total, in the prior decade. In four years he won the SEC championship twice and LSU's first national championship in 45 years.

I'd say given the shape and status of the program when they each took over Saban's first 4 years were better than O's. Sorry if that offends anyone
Posted by LCTFAN
New Iberia
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 7/14/21 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

FLBooGoTigs1


quote:

No not what they did when they got to LSU but who had the best hype and resume when they were hired


Saban may be the best coach of all time but prior to LSU Saban was not hyped really nationwide as a great coach and no where near a Kim Mulkey.

Best coaches of all time

Skip
Nick
O

Put O on the list because of the perfect season and so quick to get there. 2019 football undefeated season with a National title is the best season and championship in LSU history.

I am using coaches from our major 3 sports and plenty of great coaches that have won our 49 NCAA championships.
Posted by Gaspasr1
Bush
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 7/14/21 at 4:46 pm to
Arnsparger
Skip
Brady
Posted by TigerBR1111
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
6950 posts
Posted on 7/14/21 at 5:39 pm to
Bertman
Saban
Dale Brown

They each brought dead or dying programs to life
Posted by Purple Tiger King
Member since Jan 2021
2016 posts
Posted on 7/14/21 at 7:02 pm to
quote:

This has to be a troll, right?


I'd rather be accused of being a troll by a mega idiot like you than actually be one like you.

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Years 1 & 2 he took over a good program and maintained the status quo from the Miles era (9 win seasons).


You are obviously so damn lost in space that you don't know if you are coming or going. In 2017, LSU loss to both Moo State and Troy State after the defensive line became decimated by injuries. As the previous head coach left Ed O with a very depleted football team on the defensive line and especially on the offensive line.

In any event, once those injured players on the defensive line returned back to playing, LSU subsequently lost only lost two games for the remainder of the season beating a very good Florida team and a very good Auburn team, before losing a heart breaker to Alabama in Tuscaloosa in a game LSU won every which way but on the scoreboard. Then in the final lost of the season in the Bowl Game, Notre Dame got exceedingly lucky and made a last minute miracle play to win that game. Nonetheless, LSU had thoroughly outplayed that Notre Dame team every which way but on the score board.

Then in 2004, Ed O did not finish 9 & 4 as you stupidly allege, but instead 10 & 3, while defeating four top-10 teams in the process. Not to mention that one of those losses was a rip-off by Texas A&M.

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He had a tremendous 2019...followed by the worst LSU season in 20 years.


Meanwhile, in Ed O's third season at the helm at LSU, he went 15 & 0 to win a National Championship with the greatest college football team EVER in history, while also at the same time, reeling in a cool $55 million dollar bonanza for the university.

He also had 14 players from that team drafted into the NFL with five of them going in the first round, which tied the old all time record. It would have been 15 players and a brand new all time record had Thad Moss not fractured his foot right before the NFL Combine.

Then including Thad Moss, a total of six LSU players also received undrafted free agent NFL contracts for a grand total of 20 football players from only one single team and in only one single year headed off to the NFL. Which was not only more players than some conferences put in the NFL but also shattered the all time record by a mile.

Meanwhile, guess who recruited and developed all of those players? That's right Ed O.

Furthermore, after losing 20 players to the NFL from the previous 2019 team, four returning starters from that 2019 team opted out before the start of the season. Which meant that virtually the entire 2020 team consisted of all brand new first time starting freshman and sophomore players that Ed O and his coaching staff could not develop and prepare fully before the start of the season because of the Covid Pandemic and in which you blame Ed O for, instead of the Communist Chinese.

Moreover, in just the third game of the season, Myles Brennan got injured and was out for the remainder of the season. Which meant that LSU from that point on had to start two true freshmen QBs, who barely had any reps to transition from high school football to the SEC, which is a major jump for everyone, because of the Covid Pandemic, for the remainder of the season. Yet you blame Ed O for it and even though that happenstance was beyond anyone's control.

Then luckily a very out of shape Neal Ferrell who had earlier opted out, returned during the season to play for the remainder of the season. While both Terrace Marshall and Arik Gilbert, on the other hand, both opted out in the middle of the season. Again, not Ed O's fault.

However, the biggest reason for the debacle in 2020 was the hiring of Bo Pelini, not by Ed O, but by Scott Woodward instead to be the DC and despite the fact that Bo Pelini hadn't coached a defense since 2007 and was completely ill prepared to stop modern spread offenses. Yet, you blame Ed O for that blunder as well.

Nonetheless, because of Ed O, the team stuck together through thick and thin and regrouped after TJ Finley was finally removed as the starter at QB and replaced by Max Johnson to rally for victories against the number six Florida Gators in the Swamp and at the same time, destroying their hopes and dreams of finally playing in the college football playoffs, while also spoiling Dan Mullen's first SEC East Division title and concluding the season with a hard fought victory over a very good offensive Ole Miss team to finish out the season 5 & 5. Which was not bad considering the circumstances involved in that fluke of a season.

Nonetheless, given all the adversity Ed O faced in that 2020 season, I don't think Nick Saban or anyone else could have done nearly as well as he did.

Meanwhile things are looking up for LSU in 2021 and LSU is fixing to make a major rebound from the previous season.

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Saban took over a LSU program that had just finished 3-8 (1-7 in SEC play) and only had three winning seasons, total, in the prior decade. In four years he won the SEC championship twice and LSU's first national championship in 45 years.


It took Nick Saban four years. Ed O did it in only three years and that 2017 team Ed O took over was also pretty depleted as well.

quote:

I'd say given the shape and status of the program when they each took over Saban's first 4 years were better than O's. Sorry if that offends anyone


You're wrong! Just like you are flat out wrong about everything else.
Posted by sml71
Run if you hear banjos.
Member since Dec 2005
4328 posts
Posted on 7/14/21 at 7:38 pm to
LOL that at least two people have Mulkey at no 1. Not only is it an irrelevant sport, but she hasn’t even coached a game for LSU yet.

Y’all crack me up.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
11514 posts
Posted on 7/14/21 at 10:49 pm to
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I think these next few years will really define his career.
He doesn't have a FEW years.

He either wins BIG this season or it's Farewell and Adieu.

SW itching to make a big hire in football. (Keep a close eye on the Junior College in Lafayette this season)
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
9190 posts
Posted on 7/14/21 at 11:13 pm to
quote:

SW itching to make a big hire in football. (Keep a close eye on the Junior College in Lafayette this season)

Lol no
Posted by Swazla
Member since Jul 2016
1530 posts
Posted on 7/14/21 at 11:20 pm to
Joe Brady
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
68715 posts
Posted on 7/14/21 at 11:22 pm to
quote:

LOL that at least two people have Mulkey at no 1. Not only is it an irrelevant sport, but she hasn’t even coached a game for LSU yet.


quote:

best hype and resume when they were hired


How is that relevant to the OPs criteria if they coached a game here?
This post was edited on 7/14/21 at 11:23 pm
Posted by Purple Tiger King
Member since Jan 2021
2016 posts
Posted on 7/14/21 at 11:45 pm to
quote:

He doesn't have a FEW years.

He either wins BIG this season or it's Farewell and Adieu.


Well, no way Ed O is on the hot seat, you Tom Herman admirer, as 2020 wasn't Ed O's fault at all.

Meanwhile, he just went 15 & 0 and won a Natty with the greatest team in college football history, while reeling in a $55 million dollar bonanza for the university at the same time. Not to mention that's the single best season ever in the history of LSU.

Not only that but he has a nation's best 13 & 5 win/loss record against AP top-10 opponents. Moreover, Ed O has also had three top-5 recruiting classes in a row and is currently on his way for his fourth.

You can't even cite a single head coach in the country that has a remotely as successful career relative to Ed O. Yet, you want to fire him and replace him with an unproven head coach from Louisiana Lafayette who has never come close to recruiting a top-five class in his freaking life.

Indeed, quite obviously, you are way, way, way beyond unhinged.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
34299 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 8:13 am to
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when they were hired


quote:

3. Nick Saban


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