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Athlete compensation-Supreme Court Decision- Unanimous:sides with student athletes
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:56 am
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:56 am
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Supreme Court sides with former college athletes in dispute with NCAA over rules limiting certain benefits.
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NCAA has long argued that application of antitrust law to it would destroy college sports. Here's Kavanaugh's response-- let the athletes unionize and share revenue; or go to Congress for help.
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RIP NCAA, don’t let the door hit you on the way out
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 10:02 am
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Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:58 am to BruceUnhinged
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This quote from Justice Kavanaugh cuts deep: "Nowhere else in America can businesses get away with agreeing to not pay their workers a fair market rate on their theory that their product is defined by not paying their workers a fair market rate. The NCAA is not above the law."
Posted on 6/21/21 at 10:00 am to BruceUnhinged
Kavanaugh's concurrence isn't the official opinion of the court, but I believe he wrote to signal that student-athletes should press the issue. They weren't the ones who appealed, so the court only ruled on what the 9th Circuit had ruled the NCAA couldn't enforce. As for now, internships and other "education-related" compensation can no longer be regulated by the NCAA. This is likely the first domino to fall in a line of many.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 10:01 am to geauxaces
Yes, not directly related to NIL. My mistake
Posted on 6/21/21 at 10:37 am to BruceUnhinged
fricking took long enough.
Universities or other institutions associated with them shouldn't be allowed to restrict or monetize student-athletes outside the scope of the extracurricular activity that the university provides for. In other words, if I want to sell my NIL out on the street that's my business. Not the UNIVERSITY'S . Especially not a public university. And a public schools of any level should never be allowed to regulate the personal lives of their students off campus. I don't know how they've been allowed to get away with it for so long.
And was that really the ncaa's argument? That it was going to destroy college sports? Do they think it's the job of the Judiciary to interpret law based on the most desirable outcome? Country is so fricked
Universities or other institutions associated with them shouldn't be allowed to restrict or monetize student-athletes outside the scope of the extracurricular activity that the university provides for. In other words, if I want to sell my NIL out on the street that's my business. Not the UNIVERSITY'S . Especially not a public university. And a public schools of any level should never be allowed to regulate the personal lives of their students off campus. I don't know how they've been allowed to get away with it for so long.
And was that really the ncaa's argument? That it was going to destroy college sports? Do they think it's the job of the Judiciary to interpret law based on the most desirable outcome? Country is so fricked
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 10:41 am
Posted on 6/21/21 at 10:44 am to BruceUnhinged
Ok!
All I care is when EA sports can finally bring college sports back to PlayStation or Xbox?
All I care is when EA sports can finally bring college sports back to PlayStation or Xbox?
Posted on 6/21/21 at 10:47 am to BruceUnhinged
Get ready for tuition to increase for non-athletes to pay for their salary.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 10:49 am to BruceUnhinged
Recruiting is about to get REALLY insane.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 10:51 am to BruceUnhinged
There is no way Congress is going to help the NCAA.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 10:54 am to BruceUnhinged
The decision only applies to education-related benefits, not salaries, NIL rights, or other compensation untethered to education. It will be a long time before the broader issue is adjudicated by the SCOTUS. And the NCAA will have a much more compelling argument in that context, since unfettered cash benefits will certainly (and by definition) destroy amateurism and, in the long term, alienate a significant majority of fans.
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 10:56 am
Posted on 6/21/21 at 11:02 am to BruceUnhinged
Unless he broke some federal wiretapping law, good luck going after Will Wade now.
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 11:17 am
Posted on 6/21/21 at 11:04 am to DmitriKaramazov
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since unfettered cash benefits will certainly (and by definition) destroy amateurism and, in the long term, alienate a significant majority of fans.
Why would the supreme court care about destroying amateurism or alienating fans? Neither of those have anything to do with the legality of compensation. As mentioned earlier in the thread, Kavanaugh's statement will encourage the athletes to push the issue as everyone knows how the court would rule in future cases. So, the NCAA will have to figure out how to balance this, or risk the whole thing blowing up to where they are done.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 11:13 am to BruceUnhinged
Good thank God for freedom and the free enterprise system. What a novel idea to get paid for generating income for another. Hopefully this brings down the NCAA. And for the commies on this board crying, move to China b!tches.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 11:16 am to Geaux2LSU
so how does match point come into play in all of this
will henry hays new startup be a player or not?
Will henagrift have to come back to radio or beg Moscona for a Hudco job?
will henry hays new startup be a player or not?
Will henagrift have to come back to radio or beg Moscona for a Hudco job?
Posted on 6/21/21 at 12:51 pm to Addison Tiger
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Why would the supreme court care about destroying amateurism or alienating fans? Neither of those have anything to do with the legality of compensation. As mentioned earlier in the thread, Kavanaugh's statement will encourage the athletes to push the issue as everyone knows how the court would rule in future cases. So, the NCAA will have to figure out how to balance this, or risk the whole thing blowing up to where they are done.
Sigh. The ignorance of certain posters is occasionally staggering. The NCAA's primary argument is premised on the deleterious impact unfettered compensation would have on consumer demand for college athletics, and hence overall competition. Here is a quote from the Ninth Circuit's underlying decision:
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The district court then turned to the NCAA’s asserted
procompetitive justifications. In pertinent part, the NCAA
argued that the challenged rules implement “amateurism,”
which drives consumer interest in college sports because
“consumers ‘value amateurism.’”8
Id. at 1070 (internal
citation omitted). The district court accepted this justification
with respect to the NCAA’s limits on cash compensation
untethered to education, but not as to its limits on non-cash
education-related benefits. Id. at 1082–83, 1101–02.
You'll note that the District Court found the NCAA's argument compelling as it pertained to non-educational benefits. So yes, in any subsequent case, the SCOTUS would consider this to be a critical issue. Try to read before offering unfounded opinions.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:07 pm to DmitriKaramazov
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Sigh. The ignorance of certain posters is occasionally staggering.
Sigh. The ignorance of certain posters is occasionally staggering.
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You'll note that the District Court found the NCAA's argument compelling as it pertained to non-educational benefits.
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This quote from Justice Kavanaugh cuts deep: "Nowhere else in America can businesses get away with agreeing to not pay their workers a fair market rate on their theory that their product is defined by not paying their workers a fair market rate. The NCAA is not above the law."
Clearly the Supreme Court has not found it as compelling as you think unless you are really unable to read into the above quote.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:11 pm to BruceUnhinged
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Supreme Court Decision- Unanimous:sides with student athletes
Considering this will make a ton of Athletic departments drop most if not all sports I don’t this sides with athletes. Maybe with very short sighted ones
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:15 pm to Adam Banks
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Considering this will make a ton of Athletic departments drop most if not all sports I don’t this sides with athletes. Maybe with very short sighted ones
and don't forget the Title IX considerations!!!!
football and men's basketball pay for the women's programs...
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:18 pm to BruceUnhinged
I love how so many publications focus so much on the concurrence of the opinion, weird but given the language used by Justice Kavanaugh, makes sense, can appeal to casual readers that way though slightly misleading
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:18 pm to vl100butch
People really haven’t thought this through. They view the NCAA and respective professional leagues as part of the same system or entity.
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