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re: It's kind of ridiculous that the grizzlies are in the play in game and we aren't
Posted on 5/21/21 at 11:19 pm to TeddyPadillac
Posted on 5/21/21 at 11:19 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:They dont want to hear it. Our young guys supposedly had more upside than theirs last year when they were better than us, too. Still waiting for it o kick in. Year 3 we go...
Are you kidding me right now? The 30th pick and 2nd rounders? They are lucky one of them is even in the nba, much less all three contributing in a major way.
They are drafting better than us, and developing players better than us. We have more talent than them, yet we are the team sitting on out asses right now while they are in the playoffs.
These dudes will get hot and bothered over DiDi in one post then try to downplay what the Grizzlies are doing with the draft, in the next.
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Posted on 5/21/21 at 11:20 pm to 3PieceSpicy
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His Duke Buddies RJ and Cam are both solidly in the playoffs on teams that don’t usually make the playoffs.
Neither of these guys are Batman let alone a Robin on their respective teams
Posted on 5/21/21 at 11:20 pm to Honest Man
quote:nah
You have a Twitter?
Posted on 5/21/21 at 11:24 pm to theducks
If we don’t have another PG starting over Bledsoe, we going to end with the same shitty results. I hope we can draft Davion Mitchell and SVG starts him and not make him “earn it”. Eff that. We are lacking a floor general.
This post was edited on 5/21/21 at 11:26 pm
Posted on 5/21/21 at 11:25 pm to Macintosh504
quote:Why would we need to improve the roster if we have all these "high ceiling" young guys?
nah I know at least right now he’s slightly annoyed with the fact both Ja and RJ are in the playoffs and he’s sitting at home again. It’s not a big deal tho if we improve the roster this summer
Shouldn't internal improvement be good enough?
Posted on 5/21/21 at 11:26 pm to eyeran
The biggest difference between the teams imo is the Grizzlies willingness to let the young guys forgive it out together. SVG was terrified of giving Kira minutes to start the season. The blind loyalty to Bledsoe and Redick was weird. It took until the post ASB for SVG to start giving the younger guys some run. His rotations were something I’d have expected from a coach trying to save his job not one brought to a young team needed development in his first year.
All that aside though Point Zion was an obvious positive on the season. Ball’s shooting like he was back at UCLA. Jax finally started to put it together (weird how he got more minutes he started to be more consistent).
All that aside though Point Zion was an obvious positive on the season. Ball’s shooting like he was back at UCLA. Jax finally started to put it together (weird how he got more minutes he started to be more consistent).
Posted on 5/21/21 at 11:31 pm to theducks
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It took until the post ASB for SVG to start giving the younger guys some run.
Agreed and how did that turn out?
We became a top 10 defense. Hayes, NAW and even Naji looks like NBA players. Our worst player was a 10+year veteran and Redick was gone. If SVG starts Bledsoe next season, I’m going to melt. Adams should be switchable with Hayes on matchups. Embiid/Valaciunas/Jokic with Adams and faster centers with Hayes. Plus use Adams what he is really good at which are PnRs and screens.
Posted on 5/21/21 at 11:32 pm to eyeran
I don't think the difference in the Pels vs. the Grizzlies is their drafts vs. our drafts. The Grizz have the most impactful position locked down, lead guard.
The Pels were 2-11 in close games and they lost 14 games where they had double digit leads this season. That's not because Hayes/NAW/Kira weren't good enough yet. In many of those games in the second half of the season those 3 were probably positive on +/-. The Pels need someone that can manage the team in crunch time so they stop pissing away so many games.
The biggest question is can you find a player like that this offseason so the Pels don't run into the same problem next season.
The Pels were 2-11 in close games and they lost 14 games where they had double digit leads this season. That's not because Hayes/NAW/Kira weren't good enough yet. In many of those games in the second half of the season those 3 were probably positive on +/-. The Pels need someone that can manage the team in crunch time so they stop pissing away so many games.
The biggest question is can you find a player like that this offseason so the Pels don't run into the same problem next season.
This post was edited on 5/21/21 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 5/21/21 at 11:36 pm to TigerinATL
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The Pels need someone that can manage the team in crunch time so they stop pissing away so many games.
The biggest question is can you find a player like that this offseason so the Pels don't run into the same problem next season.
This was the Suns the season before they grabbed CP3. Look at them now. Even though they were perfect in the bubble, they lost many close games like we did. We desperately need a floor manager.
Posted on 5/21/21 at 11:44 pm to theducks
One of the saddest stats i've ever seen was that in 2011-12 after Charlotte won 7 games all season, they got jumped by us in the Anthony Davis lottery. They drafted Michael Kid-Gilchrist instead, and still ended up with a better team record than we had over Davis' time in NOLA.
We're watching the same thing happen all over again and people are still pumping out "wait til next year" takes.
We're watching the same thing happen all over again and people are still pumping out "wait til next year" takes.
Posted on 5/21/21 at 11:54 pm to duyp
To me Brogdon is our top target in a trade. And truthfully I hope the Clippers under perform again so they target Lonzo in a sign in trade his contract isn't the best but we could use a shooter like Kennard. Those 2 will greatly help our spacing and Brogdon is a good defender.
I'm not the biggest Kennard fan but I think he is one of the better shooters who could possibly be available. My dream shooter for this team is Duncan Robinson.
I'm not the biggest Kennard fan but I think he is one of the better shooters who could possibly be available. My dream shooter for this team is Duncan Robinson.
Posted on 5/21/21 at 11:58 pm to TigerinATL
quote:I actually agree with you here.
The biggest question is can you find a player like that this offseason so the Pels don't run into the same problem next season.
We don't have, arguably, the most important piece to winning consistently in the NBA. Which is why I think people need get real about where this team's ceiling is at.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 12:04 am to eyeran
Charlotte drafted a multi time All Star point guard the year before in Kemba which gets back to my point. The other players almost don't matter if you don't have a lead guard. The best seasons of the AD era were the year Tyreke peaked and the year we had Rondo.
I don't think you're wrong to be concerned that we could be seeing the same thing again. Even though Zion is a much better creator than AD, he still doesn't have the handle and diverse offense yet to be a lead guard. They have to figure that position out above everything else.
Not that the Pels had a ton of assets after drafting AD, but imagine how different things would have turned out if they had traded everything not nailed down for Lillard. The Pels need to identify who that is for Zion and go after him hard.
I don't think you're wrong to be concerned that we could be seeing the same thing again. Even though Zion is a much better creator than AD, he still doesn't have the handle and diverse offense yet to be a lead guard. They have to figure that position out above everything else.
Not that the Pels had a ton of assets after drafting AD, but imagine how different things would have turned out if they had traded everything not nailed down for Lillard. The Pels need to identify who that is for Zion and go after him hard.
This post was edited on 5/22/21 at 12:07 am
Posted on 5/22/21 at 12:06 am to theducks
Exactly, I acknowledged that later in the post. 4 different teams that weren’t anywhere near the playoffs at the time of that draft and our guy Zion is individually outperforming all of them by a lot, yet our team is by far the worst out of the 4. I would understand if Z is frustrated bc he is doing his part.
This post was edited on 5/22/21 at 12:31 am
Posted on 5/22/21 at 12:36 am to TigerinATL
quote:I agree. I know Griffin doesn't have the scars of the Pelicans fanbase, but you gotta believe he understands this.
Not that the Pels had a ton of assets after drafting AD, but imagine how different things would have turned out if they had traded everything not nailed down for Lillard. The Pels need to identify who that is for Zion and go after him hard.
This can't be a Danny Ainge situation. Every pick and every non Zion/BI player needs to be on the table to get the best player possible. Zion/Griff's future can't rest on whether or not somebody like Kira comes back ready to contribute on a playoff team.
Imo. our biggest competition on a big move could be Golden State. Steph is unbelievable and with any real talent they're a contender next year. With Klay back, I think they're a trade away.
They have their lottery pick this year, the Minny pick, and Wiseman. I'd be shocked if they weren't in on a big trade this offseason. Steph's too good.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 10:30 am to GeauxTigersGo
9 guys averaging 9 points or better.
they play hard on defense.
they have a real pg.
they have a real center.
they have a two way shooting guard.
they have a versatile pf with d and range.
they got into playin scrum without last year's leading scorer just now recovered from knee surgery.
a much more dependable bench than most teams.
what's ridiculous?
you rather have Zo or Morant?
you rather have Zo or Brooks?
jaren jr or ingram?
jaren plays D, has 3 levels offense.
pels bench or Grizzlies?
they play hard on defense.
they have a real pg.
they have a real center.
they have a two way shooting guard.
they have a versatile pf with d and range.
they got into playin scrum without last year's leading scorer just now recovered from knee surgery.
a much more dependable bench than most teams.
what's ridiculous?
you rather have Zo or Morant?
you rather have Zo or Brooks?
jaren jr or ingram?
jaren plays D, has 3 levels offense.
pels bench or Grizzlies?
This post was edited on 5/22/21 at 10:31 am
Posted on 5/22/21 at 10:47 am to Jar_Jar_80
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Coming into the year Dillon Brooks and Josh Hart was the same player
nah.
hart never had a game where his outside shooting won the game.
brooks hit for 30 sometimes.
brooks was player of year pac12.
hart hit some shots for nova in NCAA champ game.
brooks > hart last year.
now Brooks >>> hart.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:19 am to 3PieceSpicy
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Yeah Jonas is their best player
You sure you aren’t forgetting about someone?
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:29 am to LilWezyAna
quote:Valanciunas was better than Morant this season.
You sure you aren’t forgetting about someone?
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:41 am to CelticDog
Brooks is absolute trash. He makes you lose more games than win you some games. He is like Pelican’s Julius Randle but worst. His shot selection is effing horrible. Guy trash talks as if he was a good player.
There’s no way you watch Memphis games and say Brooks is good.
He is good alright
There’s no way you watch Memphis games and say Brooks is good.
He is good alright
This post was edited on 5/22/21 at 11:45 am
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