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Used Boat Buying Tips
Posted on 5/18/21 at 9:57 am
Posted on 5/18/21 at 9:57 am
Have been in the market for a small center console bay boat. I found a 2002 18' with a 2002 Yamaha 90 2stroke. Owner is asking $12k on Facebook. NADA says $8,530 low price and avg retail is $9,920. I know boats are commanding higher prices now with the market but should I try to shave a few grand and offer $10k? Has anyone bought a used boat recently and have advice for negotiating in the COVID/Post COVID world?
*I'm assuming everything checks out and motor runs with no issues. Boat looks clean and inside the hatches look clean as well.
*I'm assuming everything checks out and motor runs with no issues. Boat looks clean and inside the hatches look clean as well.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 9:59 am to Saskwatch
quote:Check out the trailer. Last salt boat I bought had so many trailer issues i wish i had just bought a new trailer from the beginning.
Boat looks clean and inside the hatches look clean as well.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:02 am to AlxTgr
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Check out the trailer
Yeah was going to give it a look over. Will I know before a tire flies off on the highway if I have hub or axle issues?
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 10:03 am
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:04 am to Saskwatch
Probably not. Maybe stop after a few miles and see if they are hot. Does it have brakes?
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:06 am to AlxTgr
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Does it have brakes?
Listing does not say whether it does or not. Trailer doesn't have brand name on the side and looks pretty basic single axle. I have a tentative appointment to go check it out Thursday AM. Trailer does have a spare tire and carrier.
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 10:09 am
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:09 am to Saskwatch
Probably don't need them. I like them because my job taints my mind re: traffic accidents.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:26 am to Saskwatch
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Will I know before a tire flies off on the highway if I have hub or axle issues?
Look for uneven wear on the tires. Bald inside with lots of tread outside means the axles probably bent. Grease slung all over the inside of the rims means the seals are out and it needs hubs. Rusty busted up leave springs and bolts and stuff means its been in Salt water and probably needs everything. Rotten bunks, dry rotten tires, etc.
The worst trailer blowup I ever had showed no signs before it blew into its basic components on the interstate. Trailers are hard to come by right now and prices are inflated on that as well so keep that in mind
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:32 am to Saskwatch
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I know boats are commanding higher prices now with the market but should I try to shave a few grand and offer $10k?
Of course.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:33 am to Saskwatch
Biggest issues are to have a mechanic go over the motor, run a compression test and let you know of any other issues they see. Does he have maintenance records? Second is a good sea trial. Be sure you can run it at over 4000 rpm for 15 minutes at least to make sure no cooling issues. Make sure all electronic stuff works, a minor issue here or there isn't a huge deal (it is a boat, never know what wire decided to disconnect itself the last time you went out).
I'd also be hesitant about an 18' with a 90hp motor. May be a little underpowered with a couple ice chests, baitwell and fishing buddies.
Is it a Nautic Star by chance?
Hours on motor? Extremely low or high would push me away.
Price seems high, but then again, if you can't find anything else suitable at the price, maybe it's good. Pre-covid, in 2018, I paid $10k for a 2000 19' with a 150hp OX66 with 500 hours. It was meticulously cared for by one owner, and I probably overpaid slightly for it, but I'm happy. and couldnt find shite-else for $10k. A whole new world opens up at $15-20K
I'd also be hesitant about an 18' with a 90hp motor. May be a little underpowered with a couple ice chests, baitwell and fishing buddies.
Is it a Nautic Star by chance?
Hours on motor? Extremely low or high would push me away.
Price seems high, but then again, if you can't find anything else suitable at the price, maybe it's good. Pre-covid, in 2018, I paid $10k for a 2000 19' with a 150hp OX66 with 500 hours. It was meticulously cared for by one owner, and I probably overpaid slightly for it, but I'm happy. and couldnt find shite-else for $10k. A whole new world opens up at $15-20K
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:35 am to CHEDBALLZ
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looks like a decent deal.
Yeah I saw that one last night. I like the engine and layout of that Bluewave. Just trying to see what other buyers experience were lately as I'd like to buy the boat but shave cost where I can. The boat will need a trolling motor and eventually a repower
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 10:37 am
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:39 am to BrotherEsau
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biggest issues are to have a mechanic go over the motor, run a compression test and let you know of any other issues they see. Does he have maintenance records? Second is a good sea trial. Be sure you can run it at over 4000 rpm for 15 minutes at least to make sure no cooling issues. Make sure all electronic stuff works, a minor issue here or there isn't a huge deal (it is a boat, never know what wire decided to disconnect itself the last time you went out).
I'd also be hesitant about an 18' with a 90hp motor. May be a little underpowered with a couple ice chests, baitwell and fishing buddies.
Is it a Nautic Star by chance?
I'm going to ask for maintenance and compression if he has it when I get there. Will certainly sea trial before buying. Boat does come with a new Simrad Go7. The 90 is a bit light on HP but it's a lighter boat and will need a repower in the future. Will step up to a 115 or larger on repower. It's a Triton.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:52 am to Saskwatch
Offer $9,500 and settle at $10,500.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 11:09 am to greenbean
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Offer $9,500 and settle at $10,500.
This sounds like a solid game plan
Posted on 5/18/21 at 11:11 am to Saskwatch
Check the trailer for sure. Bought a boat last month from Florida and lost a wheel about 50 miles from home. Luckily it's a tandem axle and I was able to limp home on 3.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:53 pm to Saskwatch
If you have a long haul from where you’d be buying it from I’d check the trailer bearings. Throw a Jack under the axle and spin the tire. If the bearings are on their way out you’ll know from the noise. I about lost one buying a used rig 2+ hours away on week night one time.
Drop a little bit of the lower unit oil to see if there’s water in it. Haggle price more if so.
Compression test is a must.
Test all electronics. If batteries are 3-4yrs old be prepared to replace them.
Drop a little bit of the lower unit oil to see if there’s water in it. Haggle price more if so.
Compression test is a must.
Test all electronics. If batteries are 3-4yrs old be prepared to replace them.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:23 pm to Cypressknee
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I about lost one buying a used rig 2+ hours away on week night one time.
It's about 1.5hr from home base. Will give the tires a spin. Thanks. Will check compression and lower unit oil.
Ive read 110 or better is good for compression and all cylinders should be close in numbers (within 10%). Does that sound about right?
Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:33 pm to Saskwatch
I have '01 OX66's and 110-120 is ideal. Mine are now down to 100-90 but I'm over 1K hours, still runs fine knock on wood. The lowest cylinder will have the lowest reading by design - for example 110 top, 105 mid, 100 low. You can borrow a test gage from Oriley's for free. Run the engine for 10 min to warm it up then do the test yourself.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:37 pm to Saskwatch
I don’t know about ‘02, but I know there were aluminum casting issues with the ‘03 Yamaha 90s. Mine had the exhaust manifold corrode in one particular spot allowing water into the cylinder. The rest of the water exhaust jacket, thermostat, cooling circuit was pristine. Looked up replacement blocks for that same year and they had a pinhole in the exact same location. Again, could have been a change from 02 to 03. Any other input would be appreciated.
With respect to repowering, I’ve heard a lot of outboards are backordered right now.
With respect to repowering, I’ve heard a lot of outboards are backordered right now.
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