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Restaurants auto grat on to go orders?

Posted on 5/11/21 at 10:05 am
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/11/21 at 10:05 am
I know this was a thing during Covid when restaurants were not allowed to have indoor dining. Don’t think there are many restrictions now. Picked up some takeout from Juniors on Harrison yesterday and noticed an 18% auto grat on the bill.

Is this still a thing? Is it now a “new normal”? Kinda felt like 18% was steep for a to go order. Also who’s getting that money? I usually tip $5 cash or so for to go. Probably going to make me reconsider take out from there in the future.

UPDATE

I sent an email asking about the policy of auto grat on takeout. Manager said that was absolutely not their policy and someone must have done it by mistake. They pulled my ticket and refunded the tip amount. Was not expecting that at all, but its nice that they admitted and corrected the mistake. Good on them.
This post was edited on 5/11/21 at 4:15 pm
Posted by BigDawg0420
Hamsterdam
Member since Apr 2010
7399 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 10:22 am to
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noticed an 18% auto grat on the bill


Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18961 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 10:34 am to
Had one place do that to me locally. They choose to set their business practices, I choose to no longer go there.

Free Enterprise at work. Well within your rights to out them for the practice though. The thing that REALLY pissed me off was they didn't disclose the practice until I handed them my card at the drive through pick up line. frick them for that.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81314 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 10:42 am to
From what I can gather, staffing kitchen is pretty much impossible right now without paying them more than unemployment is. So in order to pay them that high, they either increase the prices of the food, or charge a service charge.

Personally, I'd just increase the food items so less people bitch, but it is all basically the same in the end I guess.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17305 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:08 am to
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From what I can gather, staffing kitchen is pretty much impossible right now without paying them more than unemployment is. So in order to pay them that high, they either increase the prices of the food, or charge a service charge.

Personally, I'd just increase the food items so less people bitch, but it is all basically the same in the end I guess.


This is a big problem and is going to get worse quickly, I would like to see restaurants (and other bushiness) to call it what it is "employee retention service fee" and maybe the public will fuss loud enough that something is done...IE eliminate the $300 /wk unemployment bonus, strict enforcement of unemployment rules, etc $15/hour to sit at home is hard for a business owner to compete with.

18% auto grat on a to go is wrong and should be called out
This post was edited on 5/11/21 at 12:09 pm
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:16 am to
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18% auto grat on a to go is wrong and should be called out


It's very wrong and if a restaurant did that to me they could either remove it or find something to do with the food they cooked because I'm not paying for it.

And this isn't to say one shouldn't tip on a to-go order (although I rarely do) but not the same percentage as someone fully waiting on you.
Posted by lsutiger2010
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Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:20 am to
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This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 10:12 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:22 am to
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I know this was a thing during Covid when restaurants were not allowed to have indoor dining.


News to me, and we ordered out a lot
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31822 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:34 am to
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News to me, and we ordered out a lot


i think this was an orleans parish thing. aren't you north shore?

i didn't notice the charge until after they swiped my card. I wasn't going to ask for my money back but i thought that was an outrageous fee to charge for a takeout.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
39144 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 12:49 pm to
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That's ridiculous. Pay the charge and don't go back to the restaurant anymore. Some of you are such crybabies.

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Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
28920 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:18 pm to
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Pay the charge and don't go back to the restaurant anymore. Some of you are such crybabies.



Nah. Why would I give them 18% for putting my food in a bag? Some of you are cowards.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Member since Jun 2020
42981 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:24 pm to
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Nah. Why would I give them 18% for putting my food in a bag? Some of you are cowards.


BC plenty of waitstaff feel entitled to a tip, even if they’re just handing you a bag
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22780 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:28 pm to
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Nah. Why would I give them 18% for putting my food in a bag? Some of you are cowards.


Not to mention, paying for it doesn't exactly disincentivise the same behavior in the future. You don't have to be a dick, but telling them you disagree and not paying is more likely to create change than just bending over and taking it.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81314 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:35 pm to
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telling them you disagree and not paying is more likely to create change


Yes. Change in the form of them going, "Oh okay" and adding 18% to the menu prices instead.

The cost they need to afford these new pay requirements from employees is getting passed on to you no matter what. I get the gripe about seeing "auto grat" in front of you instead of it hiding in the prices, but at the end of the day, it is the exact same thing.
Posted by LSUZombie
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28920 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:44 pm to
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You don't have to be a dick, but telling them you disagree and not paying is more likely to create change than just bending over and taking it.




Exactly. I wouldn’t be an a-hole. I’d ask them to remove it and if they didn’t, well then I’d leave and they’ll have wasted food and lost a customer.

Me paying for it and then never returning makes no sense.
This post was edited on 5/11/21 at 3:41 pm
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
28920 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:46 pm to
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Yes. Change in the form of them going, "Oh okay" and adding 18% to the menu prices instead.

The cost they need to afford these new pay requirements from employees is getting passed on to you no matter what. I get the gripe about seeing "auto grat" in front of you instead of it hiding in the prices, but at the end of the day, it is the exact same thing


I’d rather them be upfront about raising prices for their food than charging me for non-existent service.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22780 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:53 pm to
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Yes. Change in the form of them going, "Oh okay" and adding 18% to the menu prices instead.

I'm actually ok with that. In fact, I would prefer we start to move to that model, instead of $2.13/hr + tips. Pay servers a decent wage and remove tipping entirely (or at ones own discretion). I just have a problem with a surprise 18% on a to go bill.
This post was edited on 5/11/21 at 2:56 pm
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81314 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:56 pm to
That's fair. I agree.. the fee isn't the way I'd go about it if I was running a restaurant. You're leaving an open opportunity for a customer to start drama. If you just raise the prices and update menus to reflect it, they can't argue against it.

I guess the fee is their way of trying to keep it fair to the dine-in customers. Raising prices across the board makes it even more expensive on dine-in customers because they're paying the new inflated prices plus expected to tip 18%-20%.

You could just raise the prices on takeout orders, but you'd likely get a handful of jerks every day who complain that they're being charged more than what the dine-in menu states.

EDIT- It has been a while, but I had read a few times that the places that tried to do away with tipping for dine-in and just increased prices ended up seeing a decline in business because people just didn't want to pay $18 for a burger when the place down the street that still does tipping is charging $15.

Even though it comes out to the same when you pay $15 and then tip, something about that $3 being the customer's choice makes a difference in their brains.
This post was edited on 5/11/21 at 2:59 pm
Posted by lsutiger2010
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/11/21 at 3:05 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 10:12 pm
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32890 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 3:08 pm to
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Yes. Change in the form of them going, "Oh okay" and adding 18% to the menu prices instead.
At least there is some transparency there. Adding an auto-gratuity when you're not clear about that policy upfront is shady AF.
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