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Federal judge vacates CDC's eviction moratorium

Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:26 am
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:26 am
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A federal judge on Wednesday vacated a nationwide freeze on evictions that was put in place by federal health officials to help cash-strapped renters remain in their homes during the pandemic.

The ruling was a win for a coalition of property owners and realtors, who brought one of several challenges against the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) eviction moratorium, which was put in place under former President Trump and later extended through June.

In a 20-page ruling, U.S. District Court Judge Dabney Friedrich, who was appointed by Trump, ruled that the agency exceeded its authority with the temporary ban.

"The question for the Court is a narrow one: Does the Public Health Service Act grant the CDC the legal authority to impose a nationwide eviction moratorium? It does not," Friedrich wrote.

thehill.com
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It’s not yet clear if the impact of the decision will be widespread, said Diane Yentel, president and CEO of the National Low Income Housing Coalition. She was hopeful on Wednesday it wouldn’t.

cnbc.com
This post was edited on 5/5/21 at 12:44 pm
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:27 am to

Trump judge!
Posted by aubie101
Russia
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:28 am to
This is when it gets real. They will appeal though
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:28 am to
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A federal judge on Wednesday vacated a nationwide freeze on evictions that was put in place by federal health officials


This would be like my pediatrician feeling he had the authority to step in and tell the bank that owns my mortgage what to do. None of this makes any sense.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:28 am to
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Does the Public Health Service Act grant the CDC the legal authority to impose a nationwide eviction moratorium? It does not


No fricking shite
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
11225 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:30 am to
I like the ruling but, even Trump said "it's not their fault that CHYNA did this".

Whole damn thing is stupid.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
156451 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:30 am to
I have a question for real estate agents.

During covid and especially in the last few months looking at homes as a possible move, on realtor.com. I saw foreclosures. Very few but enough. How was this allowed during the covid moratorium?

ETA: a friend's daughter had squatters in a home she owned; and they were evicted and the judge ruled their squatting started before covid.

So it takes so long making it's way through the courts is the answer?
This post was edited on 5/5/21 at 11:35 am
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:32 am to
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They will appeal though





No standing.

Don't like it, make your own rent place.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
20009 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:34 am to
I swear this eviction thing has been thrown out by the courts multiple times because CDC doesn't have the authority.

Am I taking crazy pills?
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
34888 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:37 am to
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This is when it gets real. They will appeal though

I never understood even under Trump where the CDC had this power. Not sure why it wasn't challenged sooner? Why pay rent if you don't have to? What could possibly go wrong with that?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
156451 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:38 am to
I think I am also taking crazy pills because IIRC: Biden signing it made it trump everyone? But it 'seems' they are play acting they just now figured out it was illegal? So they are using govt health organizations, the CDC, to get out of it?
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
8251 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:39 am to
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Trump said "it's not their fault that CHYNA did this".


Does it really matter what Trump said? Will it matter if Biden said the same thing? It shouldn't.

I'm dumbfounded that the Federal Government has any authority when it comes to setting a moratorium on eviction.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:39 am to
9th Circuit immediately issues a nationwide forever stay on evictions and federal judges.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
156451 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:41 am to
I also expect at any moment Biden will say he is sending trillions to bail out everyone from missing their mortgage/rent payments for a year?

This will piss many off as they struggled but paid their mortgage/rent, over getting a new $1000 iphone.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
32541 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:51 am to
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During covid and especially in the last few months looking at homes as a possible move, on realtor.com. I saw foreclosures. Very few but enough. How was this allowed during the covid moratorium?


I think the eviction moratorium only applies to renters of homes owned by evil landlords. Does not apply to mortgage delinquency for an actual homeowner.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:53 am to
In Texas, there's a loan foreclosure and a tax foreclosure.

For loans, the foreclosure sale is handled on the courthouse steps, just like the tax sale, except the loan sale is handled by an appointed trustee and the tax sale is handled by the sheriff.

The loan foreclosure is separate from an eviction, in that sometimes the resident of a foreclosed property leaves the premises following the sale. Loan foreclosure sales are non-judicial in Texas (meaning you don't have to go to court. Possession is separate from a title issue, the latter of which does go to court).

All federally-backed home loans (about half of all such loans) have received a separate moratoriums through various federal agencies. I don't think those have been challenged.

At the sale, the bank usually "buys" the property because no one meets the minimum bid, and then they try to sell it later (hence, a foreclosed property for sale on the open market).

Sometimes the occupants stay after the sale (or leave stuff behind or don't contact the law firm handling the foreclosure to tell them they're leaving), so the agent of foreclosure deems it necessary to go to court and get an eviction and take legal possession of the property, which then prompts the constable to put their stuff on the curb.

That last part is what's been halted by the CDC. All of this started under the Trump administration.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
11225 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:54 am to
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Does it really matter what Trump said?


Exactly.

quote:

Will it matter if Biden said the same thing?


Nope, but it would.

quote:

It shouldn't.


Agree.

quote:

I'm dumbfounded that the Federal Government has any authority when it comes to setting a moratorium on eviction.


You shouldn't be, it's what they do.

frick shite UP.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
156451 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 12:05 pm to
Blaming this on Trump after all of that?

This is all convoluted as I thought under the emergency powers act of the President this was legal?

So will Biden step in now and say this? Or will they create trillions more in spending to pay all the people that were lazy and just didn't pay their rent or mortgage even if they had the money from UE?

IIRC: the emergency powers act on this moratorium runs out soon or in Oct anyway. It has to be dealt with. This judge's ruling seems to take the heat off of Biden for a bit. Before 2022 they don't want to cause a housing crisis; so big govt payoffs to somebody is most likely coming....

Also another convoluted section of this is: Some banks did some kind of forbearance, and allowed non payment for 6 months or a certain time.

Some made it very clear all would be due at the end. No way can all of this be paid back --in one payment equaling 6 mos due-- and they know it.

I presume this is because certain govt ran banks like Citi, BOA, got paid off bigly, most banks, mortgage companies, didn't...
This post was edited on 5/5/21 at 12:11 pm
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
39236 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 12:10 pm to
How could HEALTH OFFICIALS have required this? I could see them WANTING it and going to the right department/whatever BUT how could THEY have done it??
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 12:20 pm to
Because they thought a portion of the health code under which they operate allowed them to do it.
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