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MCU question. Re:snap How many do you think still died anyway?
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:43 am
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:43 am
Falcon and Winter Soldier spoilers..
The flag smashers seem to point to the world opening its borders and allowing people into empty houses and such. The problem was when everyone returned. The returned got their property back regardless of transactions or events of the last five years.
But looking deeper how could anyone recover. How would religion explain another god? Thanos was by all definition a god.
Thor is too.
But the world has to be wrecked. Aliens are real, the government had a nazi sleeper cell running half of intelligence, countless near end of world events. All in fifteen or so years. On top of all that. Half the world leaves and comes back five years later.
I almost want a sitcom about a guy who spends two years grieving the love of his life and kids who were snapped only to find someone new and start a family and then BAM wife and kids are back and in the same house.
Lastly How many people you think were on planes and boats and on highways when they came back?
Did people who died as a result of People being snapped come back? If your pilot was snapped leading to your death would you have returned? Probably not.
It would suck so bad to live in that universe.
This post was edited on 4/30/21 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:52 am to Napoleon
The people in that photo are ok as long as they don't look down.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:55 am to Napoleon
The dust that constituted their bodies is not still in the sky. They reformed from their dust, which undoubtedly had fallen to the ground. As long as they weren’t over water at the time, then it becomes tricky.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:57 am to Napoleon
I just can’t quite wrap my head around bringing everyone back from 5 years ago regardless.
There had to be a few rapists, murderers or otherwise assholes who got snapped. Their victims have had 5 years of peace. Now their assailants are back.
There had to be a few rapists, murderers or otherwise assholes who got snapped. Their victims have had 5 years of peace. Now their assailants are back.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 9:02 am to Napoleon
quote:
I almost want a sitcom about a guy who spends two years grieving the love of his life and kids who were snapped only to find someone new and start a family and then BAM wife and kids are back and in the same house.
No sitcom needed. Watch Castaway.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 9:05 am to Napoleon
quote:
The returned got their property back regardless of transactions or events of the last five years.
It definitely wouldn't happen like that in real life. If their property wasn't paid off, the creditors would have repossessed it and sold it off to someone else.
No way the people who returned would get everything back regardless of the transactions that occurred in the intervening 5 years.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 9:09 am to Napoleon
quote:
I almost want a sitcom about a guy who spends two years grieving the love of his life and kids who were snapped only to find someone new and start a family and then BAM wife and kids are back and in the same house.
Not a sitcom, but that's the whole premise of Manifest.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 9:29 am to Napoleon
Pretty sure that Hulk's snap wish had multiple subsections and codicils to take care of all instances that would preclude the safe return of any snapee.
quote:
Individuals who were removed from reality as a result of the Thanos snap will be returned in the following manner:
1) All individuals will be returned to a physical place and point in time where they are
---a) in no danger of physical or mental harm due to said placement and time.
---b) will not impose physical or mental harm on others due to said placement and time
---c) as geographically close to their point of departure as possible, or in the case of snappees in the process of travel...
Posted on 4/30/21 at 9:30 am to Napoleon
Am I correct in understanding that the government didn't know the Avengers were planning on trying to get the stones and bring everyone back?
Posted on 4/30/21 at 9:32 am to Napoleon
quote:Imagine living on another planet, where you have no knowledge of Thanos or the Avengers, and half of your population vanished inexplicably for five years.
It would suck so bad to live in that universe.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 11:43 am to Napoleon
Honestly, I don’t see the world ending up any better than Children of Men even after bringing everyone back. Every single person in the world/universe would have major PTSD. Probably about 20% of the world are dating someone else or remarried. Just seeing your siblings and friends have aged far more than you if you were snapped as a child. Then you think of government structures, the fact someone else is now living in your house, all of your finances have been destroyed. The world would still rip itself apart and hundreds of millions if not billions would be killed from the ensuing chaos.
This post was edited on 4/30/21 at 11:59 am
Posted on 4/30/21 at 12:19 pm to Napoleon
Pretty sure Hulk snapped them safely into existence as explained by the Russos.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 12:22 pm to Napoleon
quote:
The returned got their property back regardless of transactions or events of the last five years.
I thought the opposite happened. Like the flag smashers were the returned who didn't get their stuff back.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 12:29 pm to Napoleon
You just have to explain it away in the following manner:
The stones basically grant the wearer/owner omniscience. So, Tony could see "everything" at once, and could place "anything" where it needed to be in that moment. If someone is safe, he leaves them alone, if someone is in danger he places them out of danger.
Yes he does that at a cosmic scale. Yes it's tough to wrap your brain around. Yes, it's from a comic book.
The stones basically grant the wearer/owner omniscience. So, Tony could see "everything" at once, and could place "anything" where it needed to be in that moment. If someone is safe, he leaves them alone, if someone is in danger he places them out of danger.
Yes he does that at a cosmic scale. Yes it's tough to wrap your brain around. Yes, it's from a comic book.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 2:14 pm to Napoleon
On the 5 Years:
Dr. Strange set that sequence of events up. When he was going through the over 14 million scenarios he knew that by Giving Thanos the Time Stone it would take 5 years for this to play out. It was the only option. He knew that Stark would have a kid with Pepper and not change that.
On the People Still Dying in the Air or over water...
My only thought to that was when Banner did his Snap and wished everyone back the Infinity Stones comprehended Banners intent to returned alive and in the closest safe spot to rematerialize. I mean, these or "Infinity Stones" and not exactly inanimate objects.
Dr. Strange set that sequence of events up. When he was going through the over 14 million scenarios he knew that by Giving Thanos the Time Stone it would take 5 years for this to play out. It was the only option. He knew that Stark would have a kid with Pepper and not change that.
On the People Still Dying in the Air or over water...
My only thought to that was when Banner did his Snap and wished everyone back the Infinity Stones comprehended Banners intent to returned alive and in the closest safe spot to rematerialize. I mean, these or "Infinity Stones" and not exactly inanimate objects.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 8:11 pm to Napoleon
I think the Russo brothers stated that when Hulk returned everyone with his snap, a stipulation was everyone was brought back safely on land. So that means nobody was brought back in mid air, or no fisherman were returned to a boat that's no longer there, nobody was returned in the middle of an highway, intersection, etc.
That explanation is very convenient, but whatever, I'll live with it.
However, that doesn't negate the fact that when the snap happened everywhere, airplanes fell out of the sky, helicopters fell out of the sky. Cruise ships and all other kind of boats were stranded at sea, thousands of car accidents everywhere. That led to a mass casualty event within itself. Those people weren't brought back imo.
Then once everyone was finally brought back, realistically, the world would have fell into a depression. Many people would be homeless, jobless, etc. There were hundreds of thousands of property disputes worldwide. Alot of this wouldn't be solved civilly. People snapped back into a home that someone else lives in now. Pew pew.
I think the Flagsmashers could have been done so much better. Their cause could've been made very relatable. Millions of people all over the world who are pissed that they've lost their job, house, car, boat, property, business, etc. People all over the world could unite over their frustrations related to this. But instead, I their cause was very confusing the entire time. In fact, I still don't understand what was their intentions or goals exactly. None of it made sense.
That explanation is very convenient, but whatever, I'll live with it.
However, that doesn't negate the fact that when the snap happened everywhere, airplanes fell out of the sky, helicopters fell out of the sky. Cruise ships and all other kind of boats were stranded at sea, thousands of car accidents everywhere. That led to a mass casualty event within itself. Those people weren't brought back imo.
Then once everyone was finally brought back, realistically, the world would have fell into a depression. Many people would be homeless, jobless, etc. There were hundreds of thousands of property disputes worldwide. Alot of this wouldn't be solved civilly. People snapped back into a home that someone else lives in now. Pew pew.
I think the Flagsmashers could have been done so much better. Their cause could've been made very relatable. Millions of people all over the world who are pissed that they've lost their job, house, car, boat, property, business, etc. People all over the world could unite over their frustrations related to this. But instead, I their cause was very confusing the entire time. In fact, I still don't understand what was their intentions or goals exactly. None of it made sense.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 9:24 pm to Napoleon
Should have treated reversing the snap like wishes on dragonballs.
"Bring back everyone Thanos dusted... except the evil ones"
All plot holes covered.
END
"Bring back everyone Thanos dusted... except the evil ones"
All plot holes covered.
END
This post was edited on 5/2/21 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 5/5/21 at 6:32 am to Napoleon
This whole topic is what makes the race discussions in Falcon & Winter Soldier kind of silly.
Half of all life disappeared and then reappeared due to a battle between an army of superheroes and an alien God....yet people are still worried about race issues?
Half of all life disappeared and then reappeared due to a battle between an army of superheroes and an alien God....yet people are still worried about race issues?
This post was edited on 5/5/21 at 6:36 am
Posted on 5/5/21 at 2:27 pm to Napoleon
A better question is, "How do we take any of the stakes seriously in future Marvel films when we know the heroes are capable of turning back time whenever they have to?"
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