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re: Is there a more stupid person on Earth than AOC? NO!
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:22 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:22 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
I fully understand that having a cell phone, social media and a google account basically means I am tracked and monitored 100% of my minutes awake.
But having a robotic dog monitoring the actions of citizens seems a little too brazen. Red light cameras irritate me but this feels like it crosses a line. It's not like I do bad shite but where does it end?
But having a robotic dog monitoring the actions of citizens seems a little too brazen. Red light cameras irritate me but this feels like it crosses a line. It's not like I do bad shite but where does it end?
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:23 am to Geekboy
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'low income communities of color
Lately, I've wondered how we've gone from "colored people" being a slur during the civil-rights movement to phrases like "communities of color" or "women of color" being perfectly fine.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:23 am to Geekboy
I mean, this is what happens when you elect mentally ill people to office.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:25 am to Geekboy
Deploying robots to police neighborhoods? For being the party of "freedom", conservatives sure love some authoritarian rule.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:30 am to xXLSUXx
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Deploying robots to police neighborhoods? For being the party of "freedom", conservatives sure love some authoritarian rule
Some assumptions are being made about who actually deployed the puppy.
I also hate myself for agreeing with you.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:30 am to Geekboy
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Geekboy
You aren't at the top of the list but you grow closer every with every thread you make
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:33 am to xXLSUXx
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Deploying robots to police neighborhoods? For being the party of "freedom", conservatives sure love some authoritarian rule.
Well, the NYPD was the one behind it. In general, this is correct though. Just look at the constant calls for instant execution in every single crime thread.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:36 am to DestrehanTiger
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You might want to clean up that thread title while calling someone stupid.
Well said.
This post was edited on 4/29/21 at 9:38 am
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:37 am to Geekboy
At least you used "than" properly. That's better than half this board.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:41 am to Korkstand
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So instead of investing in schools and public works and businesses and shite like that, we should invest in high-tech robots to fight crime?
Yes.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:43 am to Korkstand
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So instead of investing in schools and public works and businesses and shite like that, we should invest in high-tech robots to fight crime?
We've seen for decades what "investment" in high-crime, ghetto neighborhoods yields. It's like pissing away money. Infrastructure turns to shite if you don't have a populace willing to maintain, utilize and take care of it. I wouldn't drop a dime in bad areas like that and that's not wrong of me. If someone wants to play the blame game on WHY I don't want to waste money improving those areas, they need to point at the culture within, not me.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:51 am to Korkstand
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Glad we agree. Let's see how far this agreement goes: when addressing problems, is it generally more effective to treat the symptoms or the causes?
Absolutely more efficient to address the causes.
How much money are you willing to dump into that "solution". So far we've spent trillions trying to fix it and we're going in the opposite direction. You can spend another 10 trillion and it won't make one bit of difference if the people you're trying to change refuse to do so, which is the case in 99% of these problem areas.
The idea that they're shooting each other because there isn't a square 6 figure job available for them is beyond laughable.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:55 am to loopback
quote:First, what investment and where? Legit question.
We've seen for decades what "investment" in high-crime, ghetto neighborhoods yields. It's like pissing away money. Infrastructure turns to shite if you don't have a populace willing to maintain, utilize and take care of it. I wouldn't drop a dime in bad areas like that and that's not wrong of me. If someone wants to play the blame game on WHY I don't want to waste money improving those areas, they need to point at the culture within, not me.
Second, not dropping a dime is far better than dropping a whole lot of them into robot cops. Maybe I'm in the minority around here, but it seems to me that policing works a lot better when there is a good relationship between them and the local community. Deploying robots destroys that.
From what I understand, though, the intended use case for these things is tactical situations where it would be safer than sending in people. Fires, hostage situations, bombs, things like that. I don't think anyone would have a problem with that, but I think the fear is that it would not stop there. Justified fear?
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:03 am to Korkstand
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First, what investment and where? Legit question
I have personally seen dozens of YMCA federally funded centers be built brand spanking new with state of the art computer labs, games, outdoor recreation, etc and every single one went to shite at an alarming pace. I've seen businesses, parks, community pools, all get established and subsequently fall apart in record time. We've all seen this, pretending otherwise is just hiding from the real issue. Doesn't matter what you do, until the people who use these facilities change, they will continue to deteriorate and be nothing more than wasteful spending
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:03 am to Korkstand
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policing works a lot better when there is a good relationship between them and the local community.
What is your definition of a good relationship?
It is widely know that some in certain communities don't like the police. It doesn't matter what they do to foster a good relationship. For that to actually happen, it has to be both ways. Is that possible?
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:06 am to upgrayedd
quote:Great.
Absolutely more efficient to address the causes.
quote:Hasn't crime of all types been on the decline for a few decades? What has gotten worse?
How much money are you willing to dump into that "solution". So far we've spent trillions trying to fix it and we're going in the opposite direction.
quote:Do you think spending tax dollars on robots will be a better bet?
You can spend another 10 trillion and it won't make one bit of difference if the people you're trying to change refuse to do so, which is the case in 99% of these problem areas.
quote:That's obviously not what I'm implying. Also there is obviously no quick and easy fix. All I'm saying is that spending money on being less human is not the way to go. Might as well just declare war. That always fixes things, right?
The idea that they're shooting each other because there isn't a square 6 figure job available for them is beyond laughable.
And again, I don't see where the intent was to use these things to patrol poor neighborhoods, but OP and others seem to think that would be a good use case.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:08 am to Hoodie
quote:People-first language. Their personhood comes before their racial/ethnic identity.
Lately, I've wondered how we've gone from "colored people" being a slur during the civil-rights movement to phrases like "communities of color" or "women of color" being perfectly fine.
"Colored" also effectively meant "black" in the understanding of that time (Native Americans, Latinos, Asians, etc., were typically permitted to use "whites only" spaces and public amenities in the 1950s and 1960s), whereas "POC" is now understood to be more inclusive of other racial/ethnic minorities.
This post was edited on 4/29/21 at 10:14 am
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