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re: Is there a more stupid person on Earth than AOC? NO!

Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:22 am to
Posted by TigerPaul
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
2950 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:22 am to
I fully understand that having a cell phone, social media and a google account basically means I am tracked and monitored 100% of my minutes awake.

But having a robotic dog monitoring the actions of citizens seems a little too brazen. Red light cameras irritate me but this feels like it crosses a line. It's not like I do bad shite but where does it end?
Posted by Hoodie
Donaldsonville, LA
Member since Dec 2019
3028 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:23 am to
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'low income communities of color


Lately, I've wondered how we've gone from "colored people" being a slur during the civil-rights movement to phrases like "communities of color" or "women of color" being perfectly fine.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119689 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:23 am to
I mean, this is what happens when you elect mentally ill people to office.
Posted by xXLSUXx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2010
10312 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:25 am to
Deploying robots to police neighborhoods? For being the party of "freedom", conservatives sure love some authoritarian rule.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11372 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:27 am to
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where does it end?
Posted by TigerPaul
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
2950 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:30 am to
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Deploying robots to police neighborhoods? For being the party of "freedom", conservatives sure love some authoritarian rule


Some assumptions are being made about who actually deployed the puppy.

I also hate myself for agreeing with you.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57541 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:30 am to
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Geekboy


You aren't at the top of the list but you grow closer every with every thread you make
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:33 am to
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Deploying robots to police neighborhoods? For being the party of "freedom", conservatives sure love some authoritarian rule.


Well, the NYPD was the one behind it. In general, this is correct though. Just look at the constant calls for instant execution in every single crime thread.
Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
5029 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:36 am to
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You might want to clean up that thread title while calling someone stupid.



Well said.
This post was edited on 4/29/21 at 9:38 am
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36905 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:37 am to
At least you used "than" properly. That's better than half this board.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18137 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:41 am to
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So instead of investing in schools and public works and businesses and shite like that, we should invest in high-tech robots to fight crime?


Yes.
Posted by loopback
Member since Jul 2011
4887 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:43 am to
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So instead of investing in schools and public works and businesses and shite like that, we should invest in high-tech robots to fight crime?


We've seen for decades what "investment" in high-crime, ghetto neighborhoods yields. It's like pissing away money. Infrastructure turns to shite if you don't have a populace willing to maintain, utilize and take care of it. I wouldn't drop a dime in bad areas like that and that's not wrong of me. If someone wants to play the blame game on WHY I don't want to waste money improving those areas, they need to point at the culture within, not me.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135124 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:51 am to
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Glad we agree. Let's see how far this agreement goes: when addressing problems, is it generally more effective to treat the symptoms or the causes?

Absolutely more efficient to address the causes.

How much money are you willing to dump into that "solution". So far we've spent trillions trying to fix it and we're going in the opposite direction. You can spend another 10 trillion and it won't make one bit of difference if the people you're trying to change refuse to do so, which is the case in 99% of these problem areas.

The idea that they're shooting each other because there isn't a square 6 figure job available for them is beyond laughable.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28733 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:55 am to
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We've seen for decades what "investment" in high-crime, ghetto neighborhoods yields. It's like pissing away money. Infrastructure turns to shite if you don't have a populace willing to maintain, utilize and take care of it. I wouldn't drop a dime in bad areas like that and that's not wrong of me. If someone wants to play the blame game on WHY I don't want to waste money improving those areas, they need to point at the culture within, not me.
First, what investment and where? Legit question.

Second, not dropping a dime is far better than dropping a whole lot of them into robot cops. Maybe I'm in the minority around here, but it seems to me that policing works a lot better when there is a good relationship between them and the local community. Deploying robots destroys that.


From what I understand, though, the intended use case for these things is tactical situations where it would be safer than sending in people. Fires, hostage situations, bombs, things like that. I don't think anyone would have a problem with that, but I think the fear is that it would not stop there. Justified fear?
Posted by loopback
Member since Jul 2011
4887 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:03 am to
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First, what investment and where? Legit question


I have personally seen dozens of YMCA federally funded centers be built brand spanking new with state of the art computer labs, games, outdoor recreation, etc and every single one went to shite at an alarming pace. I've seen businesses, parks, community pools, all get established and subsequently fall apart in record time. We've all seen this, pretending otherwise is just hiding from the real issue. Doesn't matter what you do, until the people who use these facilities change, they will continue to deteriorate and be nothing more than wasteful spending
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
19275 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:03 am to
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policing works a lot better when there is a good relationship between them and the local community.


What is your definition of a good relationship?

It is widely know that some in certain communities don't like the police. It doesn't matter what they do to foster a good relationship. For that to actually happen, it has to be both ways. Is that possible?





Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28733 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:06 am to
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Absolutely more efficient to address the causes.
Great.
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How much money are you willing to dump into that "solution". So far we've spent trillions trying to fix it and we're going in the opposite direction.
Hasn't crime of all types been on the decline for a few decades? What has gotten worse?
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You can spend another 10 trillion and it won't make one bit of difference if the people you're trying to change refuse to do so, which is the case in 99% of these problem areas.
Do you think spending tax dollars on robots will be a better bet?
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The idea that they're shooting each other because there isn't a square 6 figure job available for them is beyond laughable.
That's obviously not what I'm implying. Also there is obviously no quick and easy fix. All I'm saying is that spending money on being less human is not the way to go. Might as well just declare war. That always fixes things, right?

And again, I don't see where the intent was to use these things to patrol poor neighborhoods, but OP and others seem to think that would be a good use case.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10473 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:08 am to
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Lately, I've wondered how we've gone from "colored people" being a slur during the civil-rights movement to phrases like "communities of color" or "women of color" being perfectly fine.

People-first language. Their personhood comes before their racial/ethnic identity.

"Colored" also effectively meant "black" in the understanding of that time (Native Americans, Latinos, Asians, etc., were typically permitted to use "whites only" spaces and public amenities in the 1950s and 1960s), whereas "POC" is now understood to be more inclusive of other racial/ethnic minorities.
This post was edited on 4/29/21 at 10:14 am
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