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Why doesn't CPM try using an opener?
Posted on 4/22/21 at 8:27 am
Posted on 4/22/21 at 8:27 am
Obviously we don't have anyone that can close games out, and Marceaux and Labas can't go 9 innings every weekend. Why not try to get the first 1-3 innings on Friday and Saturday with some of your "relievers" when they'll be under less pressure and then let Marceaux and Labas come in to pitch the rest of the game? If we get into too big of a hole early in the game on Friday or Saturday then you just save Marceaux/Labas for Sunday instead.
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Posted on 4/22/21 at 8:28 am to Yeti_Chaser
That's a strategy employed when your bullpen is better than your starters.
That's not the issue we're having.
That's not the issue we're having.
Posted on 4/22/21 at 8:29 am to ProjectP2294
Well Bianco gets the start in Oxford at 2B
I would start Fontenot in Game 3 and see how long he can go
I would start Fontenot in Game 3 and see how long he can go
Posted on 4/22/21 at 8:31 am to nicholastiger
Bianco getting the start tonight is truly a sign of Mainieri making his final lap.
Posted on 4/22/21 at 8:33 am to Adam4848
Do you think he would be starting if it wasn’t OM?
Posted on 4/22/21 at 8:35 am to ProjectP2294
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That's a strategy employed when your bullpen is better than your starters.
That's not the issue we're having.
Typically. But the biggest issue we're having is finishing games off. I'd rather have Marceaux or Labas with 70-80 pitches behind them in the 9th than any of our other options right now
Posted on 4/22/21 at 8:37 am to Yeti_Chaser
You don't think asking a relief pitcher to start is adding pressure?
Posted on 4/22/21 at 8:39 am to BigRaggedyTiger
I was about to say the same. Pressure is equal ,but one type of pressure they are used to ,and the other type they are not.
Posted on 4/22/21 at 8:40 am to Yeti_Chaser
That's something that's not done in college .I'm sure theres a reason it's not done
Posted on 4/22/21 at 8:41 am to LSUJML
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Do you think he would be starting if it wasn’t OM?
No, which only highlights the level of decision making going on with Mainieri at a time we can't afford to punt on games.
Posted on 4/22/21 at 8:41 am to BigRaggedyTiger
Its definitely less pressure than asking him to close out a 3-1 game. Especially when he knows he only needs to go one time through the order. I thought the reason MLB teams started using openers was to get through the top of the lineup. We'd obviously be using it for a different reason, to keep as much of the game in Marceaux and Labas' hands as possible
Posted on 4/22/21 at 8:41 am to Tigerpride18
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That's something that's not done in college .I'm sure theres a reason it's not done
Florida did it recently.
Posted on 4/22/21 at 9:13 am to LSUJML
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Do you think he would be starting if it wasn’t OM?
As Project said, no.
Posted on 4/22/21 at 9:18 am to Adam4848
I’m thinking he starts tonight & that’s it but then again not many of his decisions have made sense
Posted on 4/22/21 at 9:20 am to LSUJML
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I’m thinking he starts tonight & that’s it but then again not many of his decisions have made sense
Oh I agree. It's one thing to send him out in game 3, but the first night when you are in a must win situation it looks terrible (much like the entire season).
This post was edited on 4/22/21 at 9:20 am
Posted on 4/22/21 at 9:21 am to nicholastiger
Who tf knows. The decision making has been baffling this year. Wouldnt surprise me if he had started if we played arkansas this weekend
Posted on 4/22/21 at 9:21 am to Adam4848
It's Bianco's last chance to start in a place he grew up. PM knows this season is over so he's throwing the player (and dad) a bone. It's a nice gesture and at this point, I don't care either way. We aren't making a regional anyway.
Posted on 4/22/21 at 9:28 am to Yeti_Chaser
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Especially when he knows he only needs to go one time through the order.
I really wish we started focusing on developing guys this way. Making sure they could handle multiple innings and looking at it as times through the order vs number of innings.
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I thought the reason MLB teams started using openers was to get through the top of the lineup. We'd obviously be using it for a different reason, to keep as much of the game in Marceaux and Labas' hands as possible
From a times through the order lens, it could definitely makes sense. You use an opener to get through the top 4-6 batters. So for instance Labas enters the game and first batter he faces is the 7th hitter. He could go two full times through the order and be right back at the bottom of the lineup which could extend his outing.
I didn't use Marceaux as an example because he's not really having issues facing a lineup multiple times. Labas isn't all that bad with it either, so I still don't think it's something that would be necessary outside of Sundays.
But Sundays are really where we should be looking at it. Let's say Hellmers goes out and gets through the order once and is in the bottom of the third. Bring in a guy that's been okay in short bursts and might be able to strand runners, like *gasp* Alex Brady. Then start the next inning with the next guy that can face 9 hitters.
I actually like the idea of an opener and especially using our staff in a more progressive way. I just don't think it's a necessity with Marceaux or Labas. And I don't have a ton of confidence in the coaching staff to manage it properly.
Posted on 4/22/21 at 9:35 am to Yeti_Chaser
With only two legit starters, if we have to resort to quirky things like that we are really screwed.
Posted on 4/22/21 at 10:29 am to geauxpurple
Ain't no easy way out.
We have two reliable roles (starters LM and AJ) and everybody else is a big question mark. Fontenot is the biggest disappointment on our team. He should be a reliable closer but he's proven the contrary.
I would consider using Fontenot as a middle reliever and approach it from a managed innings point of view. If our starter struggles early, bring in Fontenot. If he has his A-game, then he can give us a lot of innings.
And if not, we can manage the wreck better.
We have two reliable roles (starters LM and AJ) and everybody else is a big question mark. Fontenot is the biggest disappointment on our team. He should be a reliable closer but he's proven the contrary.
I would consider using Fontenot as a middle reliever and approach it from a managed innings point of view. If our starter struggles early, bring in Fontenot. If he has his A-game, then he can give us a lot of innings.
And if not, we can manage the wreck better.
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