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re: Stanford study says masks are ineffective, have devastating health consequences

Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:46 am to
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:46 am to
What about the Denmark study that says much of the same thing. I remember you said you want us to be Denmark, but with multiculturalism and unfettered immigration.
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:47 am to
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Wait, you think healthcare workers walked around masked up all day before covid fake panic?

No that is not what I said.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:48 am to
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Also dentists wear them.


Some dentists wear them, also what they are aerosolizing is such that basic surgical masks do help. What they don't stop are much smaller particles that generally bypass the filter media.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:48 am to
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But to argue their long term health consequences is another. Your study says it's dangerous. So I would think that'd apply to traditional uses of masks as well. But I'm genuinely asking because I could be wrong


You keep saying this and then ignore the fact that a dental assistant wearing a mask for 20 minutes while they clean a patient’s teeth, then removing it for at least that long before starting on the next patient, and changing out for a new clean masks each time is in no way comparable to people wearing masks for consecutive hours and reusing that same mask for several days if not longer.
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 10:49 am
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:49 am to
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It's common knowledge that while not completely effective non N95 masks do cut-down on the spread but sure man whatever you say


Show actual data that supports this common knowledge, dumbass.
Posted by grayson88
Tampa, FL
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:50 am to
What about a surgeon wearing the mask for a 24 hour surgery?
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:52 am to
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It's common knowledge that while not completely effective non N95 masks do cut-down on the spread but sure man whatever you say

Problem is the vast majority of people that wear masks are wearing those thin cloth masks yet they’re told it’s good enough.

An example, all the protests last year in which people were gathered shoulder to shoulder and yelling. But since they were wearing masks (mostly non-N95s), it was said it was all good. This was excused by the same politicians and health officials that otherwise claimed to support science.

Many people pick and choose when they want to believe something.
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 10:53 am
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
3994 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:52 am to
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One whole study huh? Yall will latch on anything just to prove a point


there's been plenty, but this is the response to every single one.

Gfy
Posted by grayson88
Tampa, FL
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:53 am to
Lets stop calling this a study.This is a single author selectove review of literature in a lesser known medical journal with an unknown peer review process. This is poor quality medical evidence and should not be used to base any policy recommendations.
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:53 am to
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Show actual data that supports this common knowledge, dumbass.


The best source I’ve seen was from the CDC which stated masks were something like 1-1.5% more effective than not wearing one. People just clamoring for that 1%.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261768 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:54 am to
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Surprised Stanford is allowed to release the results of such a study.


Stanford isn't as weird as the Ivy Leagues. Their research on this issue has been independent throughout the last year.

While the student body there is probably as loony as they come, there are a couple of schools at Stanford (the Hoover Institute for example)
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:54 am to
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What about a surgeon wearing the mask for a 24 hour surgery?


Have they been performing 24 hour surgeries every day for the last 12 months?
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16437 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:55 am to
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You keep saying this and then ignore the fact that a dental assistant wearing a mask for 20 minutes while they clean a patient’s teeth, then removing it for at least that long before starting on the next patient, and changing out for a new clean masks each time is in no way comparable to people wearing masks for consecutive hours and reusing that same mask for several days if not longer.


I didn't ignore anything. I was asking what was causing the dangers because if it was simply the masks themselves then that would mean those that wore them for their job were also at risk. If the argument is improper mask use has these consequences (Which it seems to be) then I understand the premise of the argument better
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 10:56 am
Posted by HotBoudin
Metry
Member since Sep 2003
885 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:55 am to
OK, so your answer is the tin foil hat.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37168 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:56 am to
How can a mask cause diabetes??
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:58 am to
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Lets stop calling this a study.This is a single author selectove review of literature in a lesser known medical journal with an unknown peer review process. This is poor quality medical evidence and should not be used to base any policy recommendations.


Oh, so you want to talk about “poor quality evidence” not being used to make policy?

Let’s start that discussion with the 4% death rate and millions dead by summer projections and models from scientific “experts” that were the entire basis for the world shutting down more than a year ago.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261768 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:58 am to
Covidiots can't accept truth.

Regardless of approach, this virus is going to do what its going to do.

Lockdowns, no lockdowns. Masks, no masks. Places with strict protocols fared no better than places without.

The long term problems will be psychological.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54950 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:58 am to
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One whole study huh? Yall will latch on anything just to prove a point

Hey dumbass, this line doesn't work if you use it for every study that comes out.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:58 am to
The CDC just put out a paper showing like a 1% - 3% slowdown in cases in states with a mask mandate for some discrete ~15 day time windows. The paper is out there publicly for anyone that wants exact numbers. They also analyze the impact of restaurant bans.

so much theatre for so little return
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 11:05 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:59 am to
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What about a surgeon wearing the mask for a 24 hour surgery?


Who then removes said mask and doesn't wear another one for something like four or five days as they take off work to recover from performing such a long and grueling procedure?

Yeah...still not the same thing that's going on right now. Nice try though.
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