re: Kim Mulkey is coming home! Maybe

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I believe Mulkey is the only women's coach in history besides Geno and Pat with 3+ NCAA Tournament titles.

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Tara Vanderveer has 3 now, also. But, point taken.

So, if LSU WBB operates at a 5 million dollar loss. Then hires Mulkey, generates buzz, puts more asses in the seats and then still operates at a 5 million dollar loss wouldn’t that be better than operating at a 5mm loss and sucking?

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Because it doesn’t make any sense. There is a reason that every school isn’t building a new facility for every sport every year. There is a reason every does not pay out absurd salaries to every coach in every sport.

According to your line of thinking, LSU should just go out and pay whatever it takes to get saban to be the football coach, calipari to be the MBB coach, aurriema to be the wbb coach, Corbin to be the baseball coach, etc. Why aren’t they doing that? They have the money, as you continue pointing out.

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Again, your lack of understanding of this is embarrassing...... LSU should pay whatever THEY deem necessary for a coach, regardless of what YOU or I think of it...........and no, I didn't say they should pay for THOSE particular coaches. They should pay for top notch coaches. Those you named are not the only ones.......AND they should pay MARKET VALUE, if that's who they want.

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Not really. It’s a pretty simple definition

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Yes, indeed it is..........DEPENDING on what your are considering valuable RETURN. Is it money? Is it exposure? Is it team GPA? Is it championships? What do you value as a return on investment? It is not just money, as evidenced by the fact that they just spent $700K on the last coach and will spend MUCH more for someone of Mulkey's caliber. Again, stop worrying about LSU's money.

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You need to start living on the real world where “oh I have this money, let’s spend it all immediately” is not a viable answer to everything.

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Indeed. But you also need to stop being a tightwad, when you have millions of dollars in surplus EVEN AFTER you've paid for all your non-revenue sports...............which is almost all of them. Again, WHY do you have sports in college in the first place? Is it to make money, or is it for some other reasons? Clearly it's for other reasons and not just profit. This is elementary.

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If LSU decides it’s not worth the amount of money it would take to get mulkey to be the coach, who are you to say otherwise? It’s not your money.

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EXACTLY! I'd love for them to get Mulkey, but if they don't I'm not bellyaching about it, as long as they get someone GOOD. Mulkey is a better choice than an unproven assistant coach, period.

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It’s weird how you keep telling me that but have no problem saying LSU should be spending all this money.

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No, I'm not saying anything of the sort. However, if they want all of their teams to be successful then getting top notch coaches is the first or second step towards that. If they don't care if their teams are successful, then they won't. As an LSU fan I'd be disappointed with that decision because I want ALL LSU sports programs to be great. Don't you?

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Then it should be very easy to show me all your posts advocating for that state of the art natatorium and multi-million dollar coaching staff.

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Bruh, do you ride the short bus? You asked do I advocate and in my answer I gave you how I feel. Yes, they SHOULD build a state of the art natatorium. Why shouldn't they? But I'm not a swimming fan by any stretch of the imagination, but as an LSU alum I want them to win championships, period.

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Which would, once again, be indicative on them getting a poor ROI on those positions. Strange how you’re ok with that when it comes to people losing their jobs or being asked to take a pay cut, but not when it comes to sinking more money into a sport that is the biggest money loser in the entire department.

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The decision to cut people's pay, or to invest in a particular sport at the university is NEITHER OF OUR DECISIONS. I hate that people are losing their jobs, but again, that's not something I advocate for. I advocate for LSU to field TOP PROGRAMS, period.

And really this is what your argument is. You don't think that the women's basketball program DESERVES the kind of investment that would bring them back to the level they were before. Why not just say that instead of veiling it in some kind of concern about money? You don't care about money at all. You don't want LSU to spend money on womens basketball.......................and that's cool. I happen to feel exactly opposite. But I wish some of y'all would just say THAT instead of trying to make some silly argument about "ROI".

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Tara Vanderveer has 3 now, also. But, point taken.

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Yep! Didn't realize she had been at Stanford for so long. Nearly 30 years between national titles. Crazy!

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Yep! Didn't realize she had been at Stanford for so long. Nearly 30 years between national titles. Crazy!

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Yep, and I remember that last one. I've been a women's basketball fan for forty years, ever since I saw Cheryl Miller's USC team beat Kim Mulkey's LaTech team back in '82.

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Again, your lack of understanding of this is embarrassing......

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Coming from you? Incredibly ironic.

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LSU should pay whatever THEY deem necessary for a coach, regardless of what YOU or I think of it...........

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And yet you continue arguing they should pay mulkey millions of dollars while telling me it’s none of my business how they spend their money.

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and no, I didn't say they should pay for THOSE particular coaches. They should pay for top notch coaches. Those you named are not the only ones.......

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Those names are recognized as the best in their sport. If you disagree then name someone else to take their place.

The point remains even though you’re trying to deflect from it. LSU, nor any other school, goes out and pays whatever they have to pay to get the best coaches out there. Yet that’s what you’re arguing for.

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AND they should pay MARKET VALUE, if that's who they want.

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Market value is what someone else will accept for the services they can provide. If lsu wants mulkey and mulkey says she wants $10 million per year, that would be a wise decision according to you. Think about that.

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Yes, indeed it is..........DEPENDING on what your are considering valuable RETURN. Is it money? Is it exposure? Is it team GPA? Is it championships? What do you value as a return on investment?

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What is the value of what you’re getting in return compared to the value of what you gave to acquire it. That’s ROI. What other definitions do you need provided for you?

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It is not just money, as evidenced by the fact that they just spent $700K on the last coach

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A massive mistake according to anyone with a functioning brain.

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Again, stop worrying about LSU's money.

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Sure. Right after you do. Do you understand that, or do you need me to capitalize random words on occasion before you get it?

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Indeed. But you also need to stop being a tightwad

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In addition to not being stingy, advocating for fiscal responsibility doesn’t make someone a tightwad.

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when you have millions of dollars in surplus EVEN AFTER you've paid for all your non-revenue sports...............which is almost all of them.

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Remember 6 words ago when you told me to stop worrying about how LSU spends their money? Good times.

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Again, WHY do you have sports in college in the first place? Is it to make money, or is it for some other reasons? Clearly it's for other reasons and not just profit. This is elementary.

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Again, why hasn’t any school gone out and thrown the bank at the best coach in every sport to make all of their teams the best? Clearly it’s not because none of them can’t afford to do it. This is common sense.

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EXACTLY! I'd love for them to get Mulkey, but if they don't I'm not bellyaching about it, as long as they get someone GOOD. Mulkey is a better choice than an unproven assistant coach, period.

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So it’s ok for you to care about how LSU chooses to spend it’s money if they hire someone you deem to be not good, or unproven. Thanks for clearing that up.

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No, I'm not saying anything of the sort.

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I’ve lost count of how many times you’ve said exactly that.

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However, if they want all of their teams to be successful then getting top notch coaches is the first or second step towards that.

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Maybe one of these replies you’ll actually attempt to explain why no school has spent the money to get top coaches for all of their sports.

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As an LSU fan I'd be disappointed with that decision because I want ALL LSU sports programs to be great. Don't you?

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Do you understand it’s possible to want teams to be both successful and fiscally responsible? This isn’t rhetorical btw, I’m not sure you do.

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Bruh, do you ride the short bus? You asked do I advocate and in my answer I gave you how I feel.

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You ask if I ride the short bus while in the very sane sentence demonstrating you don’t know what it means to advocate for something. Ok

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Yes, they SHOULD build a state of the art natatorium. Why shouldn't they?

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Because it would be a stupid decision.

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The decision to cut people's pay, or to invest in a particular sport at the university is NEITHER OF OUR DECISIONS. I hate that people are losing their jobs, but again, that's not something I advocate for.

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Yet you were happy to pass off people losing their jobs as ‘well they decided those positions weren’t necessary’

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And really this is what your argument is. You don't think that the women's basketball program DESERVES the kind of investment that would bring them back to the level they were before. Why not just say that instead of veiling it in some kind of concern about money?

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There is no veiling of anything. No sport is deserving of continued investment that it’s never going to come close to matching in revenue or exposure. It has nothing to do with women’s basketball. Swimming isn’t deserving of a $50 million dollar facility. If football was losing $20 million a year they wouldn’t deserve things either.

The more accurate description of the situation is you’re a women’s basketball fan and therefore want to see them be given every opportunity to be successful regardless of the cost. The problem you’re running into is you only cared about women’s basketball, at least until this thread started.

Btw, how’s that list of wbb programs that broke even or made a small profit in the recent past coming along?

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Okay ladies. Knock it off. You're not going to change each other's opinions.

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Exactly. I’m tired of scrolling downward. Nobody else but those two are reading all that shite.

Holy wall of text

It’s Mulkey and for about $2,000,000.00