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re: OTB - O updates week three of spring practice and Brooks Kubena tweets
Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:31 am to SeanLSU
Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:31 am to SeanLSU
This could still get ugly for Ed before it's over.
My question is: Why? Isn’t she just alleging “harassment?” I don’t know the details, but aside from Guice being a creep and saying something like “I would like to frick you” or whatever, that’s not illegal. He is not in a position of power over her. They don’t work together. And as far as I know he didn’t put his hands on her. So aside from a really bad look, I’m trying to determine what the real legal issue is. I mean it’s fricked up from a moral standpoint, but it isn’t illegal from what I know. Of course I am sure I am ignorant of all the facts.
My question is: Why? Isn’t she just alleging “harassment?” I don’t know the details, but aside from Guice being a creep and saying something like “I would like to frick you” or whatever, that’s not illegal. He is not in a position of power over her. They don’t work together. And as far as I know he didn’t put his hands on her. So aside from a really bad look, I’m trying to determine what the real legal issue is. I mean it’s fricked up from a moral standpoint, but it isn’t illegal from what I know. Of course I am sure I am ignorant of all the facts.
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:35 am to Tiger Ree
Neither is lying. I bet a dollar Verge spoke to her.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:35 am to LoveThatMoney
quote:
My question is: Why? Isn’t she just alleging “harassment?” I don’t know the details, but aside from Guice being a creep and saying something like “I would like to frick you” or whatever, that’s not illegal. He is not in a position of power over her. They don’t work together. And as far as I know he didn’t put his hands on her. So aside from a really bad look, I’m trying to determine what the real legal issue is. I mean it’s fricked up from a moral standpoint, but it isn’t illegal from what I know. Of course I am sure I am ignorant of all the facts.
I agree! I can walk up to any woman add grab my crotch and say I want to frick you! I'm pretty sure I would be labeled as a creep but I doubt one would be arrested for that! I hate to say she's looking for pay day but...
Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:35 am to Nissanmaxima
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I would highly doubt that he would get fired over that. It wasn't his choice to play or not play or to personally reprimand Guice! Either way I just wish they would wrap all this crap up so we can just move the frick on already!
The only way this could potentially put Ed Orgeron's job at risk is if they prove he lied to the husch blackwell people. That's a big if and even then, idk that he would get fired for it.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:39 am to Tiger Ree
Oh look, usual Ed haters and melters in here doing work. justice will be along shortly
This post was edited on 3/30/21 at 11:40 am
Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:39 am to josh336
quote:I think Coach O could be in some serious trouble regardless. There is no way as the head coach he wasn't aware of Guice's previous sexual assault/rape allegations. Then it's being established that at the very least Coach O was briefed about this incident with the security guard and chose not to punish him.
Would lsu fire him over this?
When you put that together it establishes a pattern of sexual assault/rape by Guice, Coach O's knowledge of that pattern, and a decision by him to not do anything about it. From the outside looking in, it would appear that he was complicit and sweeping it under the rug.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:40 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
I know y’all want to get rid of O, and have since he was hired, but this ain’t going to get it done.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:43 am to The Pirate King
quote:Says the poster who cries about how Will Wade should be fired every other day.
I know y’all want to get rid of O, and have since he was hired, but this ain’t going to get it done.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:46 am to The Pirate King
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I know y’all want to get rid of O, and have since he was hired, but this ain’t going to get it done
So you cry like a baby back bitch every time LSU basketball, or baseball lose a game, yet you will walk to the ends of the earth to defend Orgeron? You have become a shittier poster than Ree. If that was your goal all along, then congrats I suppose.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:46 am to The Pirate King
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Oh look, usual Ed haters and melters in here doing work. justice will be along shortly
You don't think Orgeron potentially covering up his involvement of covering up sexual misconduct to an investigation firm hired by LSU to investigate mishandling of sexual misconduct is an issue?
This post was edited on 3/30/21 at 11:48 am
Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:46 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
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Says the poster who cries about how Will Wade should be fired every other day.
Factually inaccurate.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:49 am to The Pirate King
Like Coach O's most recent statement?
This post was edited on 3/30/21 at 11:50 am
Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:50 am to TigerLunatik
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You don't think Orgeron potentially covering up his involvement of covering up sexual misconduct to an investigation firm hired by LSU to investing mishandling of sexual misconduct is an issue?
There’s no proof of this except the word of the security guard.
This post was edited on 3/30/21 at 11:57 am
Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:50 am to TigerLunatik
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You don't think Orgeron potentially covering up his involvement of covering up sexual misconduct to an investigation firm hired by LSU to investigate mishandling of sexual misconduct is an issue?
An issue? Yes. But cause for termination? That's a little murky given that the only thing we are talking about here, even if true, is whether O had a convo with this lady. All of the more serious allegations against Guice were (I believe) made known to the University.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:53 am to The Pirate King
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There’s literally...literally...zero proof of this except the word of someone who no one would listen to or believe (including news stations and attorneys) before the HB report.
That's why I said potentially. He said he didn't call her. If phone records prove he did, that's not cause for termination in your opinion?
Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:54 am to TigerLunatik
quote:It absolutely is
That's why I said potentially. He said he didn't call her. If phone records prove he did, that's not cause for termination in your opinion?
O calling this woman, and Guice not being disciplined for this specific action isnt a big deal, and wouldnt lead to any real discipline from O
But if it turns out he freaking lied to the investigators hired to clean up this mess, he is toast
Hence why the coverup is worse than the actual crime
Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:55 am to TigerLunatik
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If phone records prove he did, that's not cause for termination in your opinion?
I mean, I think it’s possible that O genuinely didn’t remember speaking to this woman with the amount of phone calls he makes on any given day and the fact this was years ago.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:56 am to The Pirate King
quote:fricking ridiculous
I mean, I think it’s possible that O genuinely didn’t remember speaking to this woman
Regardless, he didnt say he didnt remember when he talked to investigators. He denied it
Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:58 am to The Pirate King
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I think it’s possible that O genuinely didn’t remember speaking to this woman
It makes sense to you that he would remember being told about such a bizarre situation but not remember calling the woman that it happened to?
Posted on 3/30/21 at 12:01 pm to TigerLunatik
quote:Its laughable
It makes sense to you that he would remember being told about such a bizarre situation but not remember calling the woman that it happened to?
O said he remembered the incident and talked about it
There is no way he would remember the incident and not remember calling lady. He should have never said “I didn’t call her” unless that’s the truth
Which hopefully it is
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