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re: A big reason we lost last night
Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:22 am to dukke v
Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:22 am to dukke v
Agreed. The refs made some bad calls both ways. I also think it is way too easy to blame that loss on one thing or another. There were multiple factors. Not having a big man is down the list lower than shooting, bench, moving the ball in distress (see our scoring droughts), rotating to the open three shooter, using a timeout during opponent runs instead of waiting for the commercial break.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:25 am to GumboPot
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There were opportunities for LSU to to make more assist but instead of dishing it off when driving to the paint Watford and Thomas would shoot instead of dishing it off.
Story of the season
There are good players on this team, but no player that makes his teammates better.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:31 am to tigerfan57
It’s hard to believe LSU turned it over only 3 times against Michigan. And that they turned it over 3 times against Michigan and lost.
The momentum really shifted for good when Javonte committed the first one on that really bad no look bounce pass behind him out of bounds to where he thought Days was. LSU was up 6 with the ball with 15 minutes left. Michigan came right back after the turnover and hit two 3s in a row and went on a 10-0 run.
LSU answered with a quick run to go back up at the under 12 but that first turnover really shifted the flow.
The momentum really shifted for good when Javonte committed the first one on that really bad no look bounce pass behind him out of bounds to where he thought Days was. LSU was up 6 with the ball with 15 minutes left. Michigan came right back after the turnover and hit two 3s in a row and went on a 10-0 run.
LSU answered with a quick run to go back up at the under 12 but that first turnover really shifted the flow.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:50 am to ELLSSUU
quote:They were very inconsistent. They would call it tight both ways, then just randomly let them play. I didn't see an advantage to either team with this, but was frustrating to watch (can only imagine how frustrating it was to play like this).
The refs made some bad calls both ways
They played like they were overly concerned with Michigan running. Whenever a player (esp Smart) would drive the basket, you would often see 4-5 Mich players but no other LSU players.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:51 am to Run DMC
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It all goes back to having a big man that has to take double teams down low. When the defense crashed in on him, that left wide open shooters to knock down 3’s. Had we had someone to match him, we win the game. They don’t have near as many open looks and all the shots are contested.
winner
Posted on 3/23/21 at 10:16 am to LSUFM
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Don’t forget bench points. Michigan had 26. LSU had only 2 the whole game and those came on free throws at the end of the game.
So tired of people blaming the refs. The above quote is the bottom line we lost. Period.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 10:29 am to mtntiger
It's a lazy offense that requires little to no coaching. A bunch of standing around and spectating.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 11:01 am to tigerfan57
LSU was at a disadvantage size wise inside.
LSU had a significant size advantage with the guards.
In the first half Thomas shot over his small guard
In the 2nd half for some unknown reason he tried to drive and score on their big men inside. He got zero calls after being mauled constantly, but he kept doing it. If WW would have read the game officiating properly, he would have had Thomas and Days outside shooting wide open threes after Smart and Watford (who couldn't score inside at all) in the second half, especially the last 10 minutes. That is the only way LSU was going to win that game. LSU played right into M's strengths the last 10 minutes of the game, Watford missed 5 FT's, an officiating blunder on the out of bounds gave M 2 points, and the charging foul against Thomas going across the lane, getting bumped hard by a small guard, scoring and having it not count and a charging foul called on him, was just beyond comprehension.,..another 3 points. While I think the best team won, if the above happens, LSU beats the better team, and the better coached team. LSU's last hurrah for a while I'm afraid.
LSU had a significant size advantage with the guards.
In the first half Thomas shot over his small guard
In the 2nd half for some unknown reason he tried to drive and score on their big men inside. He got zero calls after being mauled constantly, but he kept doing it. If WW would have read the game officiating properly, he would have had Thomas and Days outside shooting wide open threes after Smart and Watford (who couldn't score inside at all) in the second half, especially the last 10 minutes. That is the only way LSU was going to win that game. LSU played right into M's strengths the last 10 minutes of the game, Watford missed 5 FT's, an officiating blunder on the out of bounds gave M 2 points, and the charging foul against Thomas going across the lane, getting bumped hard by a small guard, scoring and having it not count and a charging foul called on him, was just beyond comprehension.,..another 3 points. While I think the best team won, if the above happens, LSU beats the better team, and the better coached team. LSU's last hurrah for a while I'm afraid.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 11:10 am to Champagne
Yes. I didn't think Wade didn't do a good job utilizing the talent on his bench this season. We saw very little development of Cook and Gray. I hope that changes.
I still support him as coach, just wish he could have done better in that aspect.
I still support him as coach, just wish he could have done better in that aspect.
This post was edited on 3/23/21 at 11:11 am
Posted on 3/23/21 at 11:43 am to tigerfan57
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In the two 4 minute stretches that we lost momentum, it was as if we were just forcing up shots.
I saw a few forced shots but I also saw some horrible missed calls, especially Cam scoring on what should have been a three point play. Not to mention those two big frickers in the middle throwing bows all night that wasn’t getting called until the final few minutes. Of course we could have played better, but we got robbed period
Posted on 3/23/21 at 11:55 am to moneyg
No one citing Size has answered the question:
Will Bama lose to Michigan?
Will Bama lose to Michigan?
Posted on 3/23/21 at 12:21 pm to tigerfan57
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More made shots on 17 less attempts is a gut punch. In the two 4 minute stretches that we lost momentum, it was as if we were just forcing up shots.
When people post about poor shot selection...this is what they’re referring too.
You can have a high scoring offense and poor shot selection. They aren’t mutually exclusive.
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Assists 8 22
Great offensive movement lol
This post was edited on 3/23/21 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 3/23/21 at 12:27 pm to tigerfan57
why did they slow it down at the end of the first half when they had a good lead?
Posted on 3/23/21 at 12:34 pm to Hooligan's Ghost
The last 3 min were excruciating to watch. It was our guys trying to got 1 on 1 and get to the basket with a hail mary off the backboard at the end. There was no offense or movement of the ball. Smart, Thomas, and Watford trying to be hero in 1 on 1 driving the ball with a a big man waiting along with 3 other UM players meeting at the goal.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 12:35 pm to ELLSSUU
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No one citing Size has answered the question:
Will Bama lose to Michigan?
I think Bama will win. They don't have a dominant big man, but Bruner has a better shot of slowing down Dickinson than anybody on LSU. But the more important thing is they will actually double in an intelligent manner and rotate correctly after the double. LSU's post defense strategy was directionally correct, but sloppy.
The defensive issues can stem from both personnel AND effort/coaching
Posted on 3/23/21 at 12:38 pm to tigerfan57
Totally agree on the 4 minute stretches of lost momentum. Just could not buy a shot bucket which seemed to lead to frustration with the forced shots and non-calls driving the lane.
Watford was busting his arse on defense and I don't know if that affected him on the offenisve end, but he had a horrible second half shooting the ball. The same shots that fell in the Alabama SEC tourney game just didnt fall.
Watford was busting his arse on defense and I don't know if that affected him on the offenisve end, but he had a horrible second half shooting the ball. The same shots that fell in the Alabama SEC tourney game just didnt fall.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 12:39 pm to jp4lsu
Yes, when LSU isn’t scoring it’s usually an indicator that the ball is stuck in someone’s hand. Smart started taking over for the Tigers but no one was helping. No passes no assists. It was Smart driving up and down the court. At least at the beginning of the game Cams points came from assists and off of a half court. This is a more likely scenario with an iso team so you live and die but where the Tigers go south is they cannot pass well enough into clear space for a set shot. That’s what Bama does A Lot better than us and why they don’t have multiple dry spells per game. That and maturity are also why Bama beats Michigan in a matchup in my opinion. They can stretch them and hit open guys for good shots. LSU fell short doing that for stretches last night and THAT is the difference in the game.
This post was edited on 3/23/21 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 3/23/21 at 12:44 pm to DallasTiger45
I’ve not seen a whole lot on Dickinson but last night made me think he’s capable of lazy/tired fouls. If I’m Bama I’m doing what I can to wear his arse out.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 12:44 pm to Basura Blanco
Refs didn't cost us game. But down 6 and Thomas gets bumped with what should have been and 1 with under 4 mins. That would have been a huge momentum play in a game decided by momentum runs.
That very play sucked the life out of us.
All in all we played a good game, just couldn't overcome Watford and Days not scoring and a few questionable bad easy calls.
That very play sucked the life out of us.
All in all we played a good game, just couldn't overcome Watford and Days not scoring and a few questionable bad easy calls.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 12:46 pm to LSUFM
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Don’t forget bench points
The bench disparity was a f'ing nightmare. All LSU needed was 12-15 from the bench and they probably coast in that game.
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