re: In 2008 8% of males between 18 and 30 were virgins...

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hyper-inhibitive sex etiquette

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You guys are dating the wrong women

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if you’re a 7/8 woman, you don’t need an app at all

Pretty sure that in the South, a lot of them get snapped up quicker than in other places

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Oh you sweet summer child. You think attractive women are on there because they can’t meet men in their towns/cities?

They are doing it to maximize visibility and their options.

I turn 25 in a week, so I’m solidly in the middle of this age range. Social media and dating apps are a huge part of how people my age date. Which I’m not a huge fan of, but that’s the way it is. You have to adapt or you’re gonna be a ghost in the dating scene for 95+% of women. A lot of couples my age are on Snapchat with each other all day.

For starters, I don’t believe that only 8% of young men were virgins back then. The true number was probably closer to 15%, but regardless, I definitely believe it’s much higher today and the state of dating apps are the primary reason.

There have been countless studies showing that the vast majority of men are basically invisible to women on dating apps. The 80/20 rule is very much a real thing, and the dating apps just super-charge the natural inclination women have for hypergamy.

Women generally would rather compete with each other for the top men on dating apps than settle for a guy their level they know they could get. So you have the 6 and 7 girls going for the 8 and 9 guys, and the 4 and 5 girls going for the 6 and 7 guys, while ignoring most of the guys their level. This leads to a bunch of unhappy men and women, but the top-tier men will absolutely slay on dating apps like Tinder.

There are some dating apps that try to highlight other things besides physicality, but those are few and far between. The first impression on most dating apps is all looks, and most guys don’t make the cut of girls they’d even consider. So you have lots of guys that would have found women 20/40 years ago just giving up and not even reaching out to women anymore.

I don’t mean to make things sound completely dire, but I think we’re gradually heading towards sex having much more of an exponential distribution pattern, where the bottom tier of men and women become more and more lonely, while the upper tier have lots of sex. Some would say that’s natural selection, but it’s certainly sad for those people that want companionship but live their lives alone. I’ll also add that the bottom tier of men and women are way more physically unattractive than 50 years ago. Tons of people just give zero fricks about how they look, and far more women don’t care than in the past.

Why until 30 for tracking this? Anything over say 20 is a huge red flag if you are a dude

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Both genders have very unrealistic standards when it comes to dating now

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Not really. And when it comes to just sex, everyone has their preferences and that's ok. Tinder and other social media apps make it ridiculously easy to get laid now. Unless you can't carry a conversation.

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But 27%? Whatever happened to the slump buster?

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It's likely always been this high. Only 8% being virgins in 2008 seems like a massive amount of bullshite.

Gen Z is having sex later than their parents. They are less likely to have unwanted pregnancies. They are less likely to abuse drugs or alcohol. It all sounds great until you realize the reason is that they never leave the house because they are glued to their phones 24/7. It’s sad. No wonder mental health is an issue for today’s teens. They would have honestly been better off using drugs and losing their virginity to some random person like our generation did.

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Women generally would rather compete with each other for the top men on dating apps than settle for a guy their level they know they could get. So you have the 6 and 7 girls going for the 8 and 9 guys, and the 4 and 5 girls going for the 6 and 7 guys, while ignoring most of the guys their level.

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But doesn’t this imply that most of the overly ambitious women will end up empty handed? Yes they might get sex on occasion, but when it comes to settling down and starting a family, the numbers are still one man to one woman. The dating apps might disadvantage men when it comes to sex, but when it comes to actually marrying and starting a family, these women are going to have to come back down to Earth.

How the frick do they determine this? Self reporting? I'm sure that accurate.

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Likewise, probably some guys saying "frick it" if they can't get a dime piece.

Overinflated self valuation could be to blame, along with stunted social skills.

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This is why I can't take incel bullshite seriously. These people have standards that are so unreasonably high that it comes across as a giant troll. If you're ugly, you're not going to pull attractive women. It doesn't matter how great your personality is, no attractive women want to date ugly men.

Now, you don't have to settle for fricking ugly women if you don't want to, but that's the only way you're getting laid. So there it is, you can either lower your standards and get sex from the 3's and 4's that no one else wants, or you can accept being alone. That's really all there is to it. You're never going to frick a 10. The 8's and 9's, you're not going to get them either. Stop placating these people and tell them how shite really is, you're never going to attract beautiful women. You can still get laid, just lower your retarded standards and be ok with banging 3's and 4's, and maybe you can get a 5 or 6 some day in the future.