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re: Atlanta spa filled with sex slaves should be the real headlines
Posted on 3/19/21 at 12:35 pm to tketaco
Posted on 3/19/21 at 12:35 pm to tketaco
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I'm basing it on charges that get thrown out due to misuse of the law. Which has happen and do exist. Such examples would be busts in Seattle and Louisiana.
If Human Trafficking did occur its so marginal that it would be dishonest to say that Massage Parlors are a Bastian for Human Trafficking. That's really what I'm trying to fight in this thread. The hyperbole of it all.
Again, maybe it's because of the broad language used in defining the term "human sex tracking", but most of the cases involving massage parlors and human sex trafficking result in convictions.
I took a CLE a few years ago regarding this topic. Human sex trafficking is very prevalent but not always obvious.
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Posted on 3/19/21 at 12:47 pm to cyarrr
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took a CLE a few years ago regarding this topic. Human sex trafficking is very prevalent but not always obvious
You'd think if it's prevalent at Massage Parlors then more John's would be behind bars on federal charges rather than just the owner and workers getting pandering convictiins.
Posted on 3/19/21 at 12:55 pm to tketaco
I conduct law enforcement in Texas. County and local cops, by law, can't even get a warrant for a wire tap. Only the Feds and Texas DPS. Nothing here gets done under the Patriot Act.
Posted on 3/19/21 at 1:06 pm to Tantal
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conduct law enforcement in Texas. County and local cops, by law, can't even get a warrant for a wire tap. Only the Feds and Texas DPS. Nothing here gets done under the Patriot Act.
Makes sense. It was the Sheriff Department there in Florida that was able to get theirs.
Posted on 3/19/21 at 1:21 pm to tketaco
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You'd think if it's prevalent at Massage Parlors then more John's would be behind bars on federal charges rather than just the owner and workers getting pandering convictiins.
From The Department of Justice
Human Trafficking is a crime that involves exploiting a person for labor, services, or commercial sex.
The Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000 and its subsequent reauthorizations define human trafficking as:
a) Sex trafficking in which a commercial sex act is induced by force, fraud, or coercion, or in which the person induced to perform such act has not attained 18 years of age; or
b) The recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, or obtaining of a person for labor or services, through the use of force, fraud, or coercion for the purpose of subjection to involuntary servitude, peonage, debt bondage, or slavery. (22 U.S.C. § 7102(9)).
It seems to me that the intent of the statute is more directed at those involved in organizing the prostitution ring. Also, the federal charge/conviction is not for pandering and generally results in a significant penalty/sentence.
Posted on 3/19/21 at 1:34 pm to tketaco
quote:Why would the johns be charged with trafficking? That's like saying the guy who goes and buys a couple of bumps of coke from the local dealer should be arrested for trafficking narcotics.
You'd think if it's prevalent at Massage Parlors then more John's would be behind bars on federal charges rather than just the owner and workers getting pandering convictiins.
Yes, the end user is the demand that the trafficker is producing a supply to meet, but the john has no hand in actually doing anything with bringing the girl anywhere. I can see where if you went that route you might reduce demand and hence reduce trafficking, but you'd never get the charges to stick.
Posted on 3/19/21 at 1:37 pm to Revelator
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This post was edited on 3/20/21 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 3/19/21 at 5:13 pm to Revelator
There's a lot of those in the Houston area as well. Seems like as soon as one gets busted and shut down another springs up exactly like it. I have no moral issue with prostitution as a job but it's a real problem with how these places operate.
The workers are essentially enslaved while they are in the US.
The workers are essentially enslaved while they are in the US.
This post was edited on 3/19/21 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 3/19/21 at 5:18 pm to SEC. 593
Ah the old attack the source tactic. Good comrade
Posted on 3/19/21 at 5:24 pm to Revelator
“What you condone, you own.”
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Blaming Whitey may get you a few virtue-signaling points, but at what price in blood? What’s truly insane is that Asian-American liberals are marching arm and arm with the very dangerous zealots whose policies incentivized these street crimes against the vulnerable and defenseless in the first place. Remember: What you permit, you promote. What you allow, you encourage. What you condone, you own.
This post was edited on 3/19/21 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 3/19/21 at 6:45 pm to tketaco
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You'd think if it's prevalent at Massage Parlors then more John's would be behind bars on federal charges rather than just the owner and workers getting pandering convictiins.
Why do you think a client of a drug dealer gets charged with possession rather than distribution when they get arrested in a sting? The same logic works for clients of a massage parlor that get caught up in a sting operation. If they are trafficking, the owners of the establishment are charged with felonies, while the John's are charged with solicitation of a prostitute - which is a misdemeanor in most states.
Posted on 3/19/21 at 9:44 pm to DawgCountry
What are you talking about? He said the liberal press isn't covering and I pointed out that the site is the definition of Liberal.
Posted on 3/19/21 at 9:56 pm to Revelator
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Sex work is legit real work.
Posted on 3/19/21 at 11:05 pm to Revelator
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Atlanta spa filled with sex slaves should be the real headlines
About as likely to happen as Cuomo's murder spree replacing the headlines of his satchmo harassment!
Posted on 3/19/21 at 11:07 pm to Revelator
But but muh racism
Muh gun control
Muh gun control
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