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Historical recreation of a 15th Century Catholic Latin Mass

Posted on 3/5/21 at 8:56 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 8:56 pm
I'm sure this thread will get whacked eventually because we can't have nice things, but I post this only for its historical value. Catholic services aren't what they used to be. Prior to Vatican II, much of what you see in this video was the norm for centuries. It's a unique window into the past.

The show starts at the 3:50 mark.

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This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 8:57 pm
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 8:57 pm to
There are still some traditional Latin Masses in some places.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 9:00 pm to
I don’t know if it is still the case, but their used to be a Latin mass said every Sunday in Lafayette, LA every Sunday
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 9:02 pm to
quote:

There are still some traditional Latin Masses in some places.


Indeed there are. I attend one every Sunday.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 9:04 pm to
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Indeed there are. I attend one every Sunday.


Cool!

I used to go once in a while - I don’t have that many long skirts and I misplaced my head covering.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14073 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 9:12 pm to
Cathedral in LC does them.

Father Thomas I believe does it regularly. There are usually red books the way in that you can follow along with. One page is English and the opposing Latin.

Posted by PowerTool
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 9:13 pm to
I really liked the Latin liturgy, but the women in head coverings and "modest dress" kind of surprised me. It was only one small group at this one parish that did that, so it was weird to me even when I was used to the service.
Posted by PureMetairie
Metairie
Member since May 2017
957 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 9:16 pm to
If you're in Baton Rouge, hit up St. Agnes. They do a Latin mass and it's excellent.

There just simply isn't a comparison to the novus ordo mass.

Beautiful stuff.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101668 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:06 pm to
Fredo the Priest.

Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27158 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:18 pm to
No wonder Luther started his own club. A drum kit, a baptismal pool, and a youth pastor with a soul patch and puka necklace really spices worship up.

On a more serious note, it's a little interesting to see as someone not brought up in that world. Not for me, but doesn't have to be.
This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 10:19 pm
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:51 pm to
St. Patrick’s on Camp St. in NO has them.
Posted by HECM62
NOLA
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:57 pm to
Our Lady of Good Counsel used to do them. My granny used to go because it reminded her of the "good ol days".
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 11:04 pm to
"Hi. I'm Fred. My hobbies are watching foreign films in languages I don't understand, without subtitles, and the Latin Rite."
This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 11:06 pm
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 11:11 pm to
quote:

show starts at the 3:50 mark



Of course it does...
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 12:09 am to
No burning heretics. Not legit.
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 12:14 am to
The good old days when you said prayers and didn't know what the hell you were saying.
Posted by obdobd918
Member since Jun 2020
3228 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 1:07 am to
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When did we start celebrating Mass in Latin?
The instinct of Christianity has always been that people should worship in a language they understand.

The first language of Christian liturgy was Aramaic, the common language of the first Christians, who were Palestinian Jews. While Hebrew was the language of scripture and formal worship, Christian worship occurred in the home where Aramaic was spoken. The words Abba and maranatha are Aramaic.

Christianity quickly spread from Palestine to the rest of the world, and the Eucharist came to be celebrated in many languages, including Syriac, Coptic, and Armenian. In most of the Mediterranean world, the common language was Greek, which became the language of liturgy in that region and remained so until the early third century.

Eucharist itself is a Greek word, meaning thanksgiving. The phrase Kyrie eleison and the words liturgy, baptism, evangelize, martyr, and catechumen, among other familiar church words, are also Greek in origin.

From around the third century B.C., what we call “classical” Latin was the language of the Roman aristocracy and the educated classes. Around the time Jesus was born, during the reign of Augustus Caesar, the language began to change. The Roman aristocracy was destroyed by war and political infighting; when they disappeared, their language went with them. Classical Latin was replaced by a less refined version of the language.

In the third and fourth centuries A.D. this form of Latin began to replace Greek as the common language of the Roman world and soon became the language of the liturgy.

Exactly how this change in the liturgy came about is uncertain. In the early church the liturgy was led extemporaneously by the bishop, according to a pattern. There were written examples of Eucharistic Prayers, but they were models, not prescribed prayers. The last such document in Greek was written around the year 215. By the sixth century, the Roman Canon (which is still in use, also called Eucharistic Prayer I) appears, completely in Latin and prescribed for use exactly as written.

What happened during those centuries? It seems that a core of the Roman Canon was developed and used first, probably even in liturgies that were partly in Greek and partly in Latin, until the final Latin version evolved. Because Christians had not used Latin for worship prior to this, words had to be adapted or imported (often from Greek) to express Christian ideas, beginning the development of an ecclesiastical form of Latin. There is also evidence that the Roman Canon was influenced by prayers from the Eastern churches.

Even though Latin evolved into various modern languages, Latin remained the sole language of the Roman Rite until the Second Vatican Council returned to the original instinct of Christianity that people should worship in a language they understand.
Posted by AustinTigr
Austin, TX
Member since Dec 2004
2937 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 6:30 am to
St. Martin de Porres Parish in Dripping Springs Texas has a Latin Mass every Sunday. Most of the women wear veils.During the height of the COVID fear-monger, it was the most attended in-person Mass.

Stay close to the Latin Mass community. The devil is attacking the Church and Christianity as a whole full-force. It is the Latin Mass community that will stay true to Catholic teaching.
This post was edited on 3/6/21 at 6:33 am
Posted by tigahbruh
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
2858 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 7:11 am to
I'd attend more regularly if they still did the Latin. Makes it majestic and mystical.

Vernacular makes it mundane and boring. People zone out on the readings in English anyway.
Posted by Bullfrog
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 7:16 am to
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I'd attend more regularly if they still did the Latin. Makes it majestic and mystical.
There is a very nice one in Baton Rouge a block off Florida Blvd on Oak Villa. FWIW

ETA: Next to Custom Security. Most Blessed Mary something. IKR
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