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LA DOC wastes millions ever year keeping inmates past their release date
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:45 am
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:45 am
and a prisoner is suing them over it
wow
there is bureaucracy, and then there is Louisiana bureaucracy
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A formerly incarcerated man has filed a lawsuit arguing that the Louisiana Department of Corrections regularly and knowingly imprisons people past their release dates — a practice the department has been aware of for the better part of a decade.
This is the second such lawsuit filed on the subject, coming several months after the Department of Justice opened a statewide civil investigation into release practices at DOC facilities.
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Apart from the legal ramifications of over-detention, the DOC estimated in a 2019 grant application that "housing alone costs the state an extra $2.8M per year," according to the lawsuit.
wow
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In addition to not keeping a record or count of the people who are serving longer than their sentence — other than through specific investigations — the lawsuit says the release date time calculation process involves a convoluted system for transferring paperwork from one agency to another, often requiring records to be physically driven across the state for hand delivery.
there is bureaucracy, and then there is Louisiana bureaucracy
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Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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the lawsuit says the release date time calculation process involves a convoluted system for transferring paperwork from one agency to another, often requiring records to be physically driven across the state for hand delivery.
That shouldn't be a thing in 2021.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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LA wastes millions ever year
fify
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:47 am to SlowFlowPro
frick this stupid state. Way past saving.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:50 am to SlowFlowPro
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transferring paperwork from one agency to another, often requiring records to be physically driven across the state for hand delivery.
That government contract is probably subbed out to Landrieu Delivery Service in NOLA
This post was edited on 3/1/21 at 8:51 am
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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process involves a convoluted system for transferring paperwork from one agency to another, often requiring records to be physically driven across the state for hand delivery
How the frick does this happen in 2021?
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knowingly imprisons people past their release dates
ummm if this is proven true(being LA, I have no doubt it is) then the state is gonna pay out the arse. And rightfully should, either these people are a danger to society and shouldnt be released or quit wasting money to keep them these past their release.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:59 am to SlowFlowPro
This has Burl Cain written all over it....private prison CEOs gotta get paid.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 9:03 am to SlowFlowPro
Your tax dollars at waste.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 9:05 am to SlowFlowPro
The legislature is really to blame for this. Sentencing is a total disaster so that the legislature can make people believe they've set these hefty sentences...all while also dictating an absurd amount of "good time" which every prisoner gets by default.
Get rid of good time and just make the sentencing ranges be the actual sentence a person will serve. If you want people to only serve a max of 3.5 on a burglary, set the sentencing range at 0-3.5 instead of 0-10 with a mandatory 65% good time.
Local jails can't calculate good time or release an individual sentenced to DOC - it has to be done by DOC. This includes people who have been in for a year pretrial and plead to 1 year in court that day - the Sheriff doesn't have authority to issue that release because the sentence is in the custody of DOC.
If you want to keep the current structure, they need to appropriate funds for a system wide program that all local agencies can input sentences into and it can immediately be processed and a release issued the same day if necessary.
Get rid of good time and just make the sentencing ranges be the actual sentence a person will serve. If you want people to only serve a max of 3.5 on a burglary, set the sentencing range at 0-3.5 instead of 0-10 with a mandatory 65% good time.
Local jails can't calculate good time or release an individual sentenced to DOC - it has to be done by DOC. This includes people who have been in for a year pretrial and plead to 1 year in court that day - the Sheriff doesn't have authority to issue that release because the sentence is in the custody of DOC.
If you want to keep the current structure, they need to appropriate funds for a system wide program that all local agencies can input sentences into and it can immediately be processed and a release issued the same day if necessary.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 9:09 am to SlowFlowPro
Once again Louisiana proves itself to be a banana republic.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 9:10 am to SlowFlowPro
How do they not have a system in place that sends an email stating so and so is free to go today? shite the fricking dentist have appt reminders set up to go out every 6 months in their system. The jail system can’t figure this out?
Posted on 3/1/21 at 9:20 am to SlowFlowPro
Louisiana is like a third world country only their education system is worse.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 9:37 am to SlowFlowPro
Who the frick complains about free room, board and meals? Some people, I swear!
Posted on 3/1/21 at 9:38 am to SlowFlowPro
Their "release date" typically includes some incredibly shortened time based on offender class, "good time" calculations, time served before sentencing, among other factors. I agree they should be released on their "release date" but I don't feel bad if they aren't. They are already getting an absurd amount of time taken off and DOC isn't "losing" money for holding people over, they just aren't taking advantage of the savings they could realize. Remember, these felons are still "in custody" of DOC for the entire time of their sentence, just the supervision is swapping venues (prison to home for parole).
For example, an offender gets five years hard labor suspended, five years probation. The offender violates probation and has to back up those five years. Often he gets credit for any time served while awaiting sentence plus time on probation. He gets his diminution of sentence and is released in 15 months. He is now on parole for the remainder. It's a joke. Most of the time, these holdovers are in the process of transferring supervision since they are still in the custody of DOC. These aren't people that are serving a hard five years and are held over past their release date.
For example, an offender gets five years hard labor suspended, five years probation. The offender violates probation and has to back up those five years. Often he gets credit for any time served while awaiting sentence plus time on probation. He gets his diminution of sentence and is released in 15 months. He is now on parole for the remainder. It's a joke. Most of the time, these holdovers are in the process of transferring supervision since they are still in the custody of DOC. These aren't people that are serving a hard five years and are held over past their release date.
This post was edited on 3/1/21 at 9:43 am
Posted on 3/1/21 at 10:09 am to SlowFlowPro
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In addition to not keeping a record or count of the people who are serving longer than their sentence
of course they don't
Posted on 3/1/21 at 12:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
That monetary calculation is a typical lawyer’s trick. Divide the total cost of DOC per annum by the number of inmates and get a per day cost. Then add up the number of day/costs.
It’s not nothing, I’m sure, but those facilities and employees would still cost the same whether those inmates served those extra days or not.
That’s not to say that there isn’t a problem with over-stays, but a lawyer filing a law suit against the state is going to slant his position as much as possible.
Oh, and by the way, inmates do take loss of Good Time as a big deal, and therefore GT is a useful deterrent to misbehavior in prisons. Just a little extra to chew on while you guys are bitching.
It’s not nothing, I’m sure, but those facilities and employees would still cost the same whether those inmates served those extra days or not.
That’s not to say that there isn’t a problem with over-stays, but a lawyer filing a law suit against the state is going to slant his position as much as possible.
Oh, and by the way, inmates do take loss of Good Time as a big deal, and therefore GT is a useful deterrent to misbehavior in prisons. Just a little extra to chew on while you guys are bitching.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 12:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
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In addition to not keeping a record or count of the people who are serving longer than their sentence — other than through specific investigations
They knew this was happening so it’s kind of shocking that they weren’t even tracking it. Sounds like they just didn’t care unless they found out and lawyered up.
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