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re: "Above the Fray" libertarians who white knight for everything Biden...
Posted on 3/2/21 at 7:20 am to Aubie Spr96
Posted on 3/2/21 at 7:20 am to Aubie Spr96
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I’ve been trying to explain this to people for quite a while.
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Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:05 am to Toomer Deplorable
quote:Something as complex as the American political landscape cannot be effectively reduced to a one-dimensional spectrum.
Two dimensions are still simplistic, but a MAJOR improvement.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 8:39 am to AggieHank86
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Something as complex as the American political landscape cannot be effectively reduced to a one-dimensional spectrum.
Of course not: the arguments we debate here daily are complex and multifaceted. Yet for simplicity’s sake, we distill those arguments down to a germinal truth.
Yet the graph you display is basically a multidimensional representation of the graph I posted. Notice that facism and communism are in the lower quadrant, opposed to libertarianism and anarchism in the upper quadrant — everything in the middle spectrum is quibbling over degree.
VIDEO LINK: Christopher Hitchens on Gore Vidal and William F. Buckley Jr.....
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 9:18 am
Posted on 3/2/21 at 9:45 am to Flats
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there’s no such thing as an absolute libertarian.
I make no such claim. As a governing philosophy — as opposed to a rigid ideology — libertarianism exists on a continuum.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 9:49 am to BurlesonCountyAg
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He voiced his concerns quite often about justice kavanaugh.
Are you serious? That was a clown show; I don't know any rational person who fell for it.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 9:49 am to Toomer Deplorable
quote:I am always amused that so many posters on this forum think libertarians are just some sort of "moderates," halfway between the Left and the Right. People who "refuse to take a side."
Toomer Deplorable
How hard is it to grasp that someone might believe the Left to be mostly-correct on SOME issue and the Right to be mostly-correct on SOME issues?
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 9:57 am
Posted on 3/2/21 at 9:50 am to dclt145
Then they're not libertarians.
Pretty simple.
Pretty simple.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 9:51 am to Toomer Deplorable
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I make no such claim. As a governing philosophy — as opposed to a rigid ideology — libertarianism exists on a continuum.
Ok, but you made this claim:
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I don’t seek to impose my views or political preferences on anyone.
Unless you're an anarchist you want laws. If you want laws, you want things imposed on other people. I'm not saying that's bad, I'm just saying your claim is an exaggeration.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 9:56 am to Flats
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Imagine purposefully cultivating a fake accent in an attempt to impress others.
It's not fake. It's a different era of that region. IE, I was taught to read by teachers who started their careers in the 1930s. I was taught the 'h' is not silent in words like 'when' 'whether' 'which'. The 'h' is pronounced first: hwen, hwether, hwich.
Buckley never changed with the times.
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 10:05 am
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:01 am to Zach
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It's not fake.
It wasn't entirely fake, but he purposefully cultivated it, exaggerated it and threw in some British influence as well. I liked the guy and agreed with him far more often than not, but he was pretentious as hell.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:01 am to Zach
quote:He had a VERY unusual speech pattern, because he had a very unusual upbringing.
It's not fake. It's a different era of that region. IE, I was taught to read by teachers who started their careers in the 1930s. I was taught the 'h' is not silent in words like 'when' 'whether' 'which'. He 'h' is pronounced first: hwen, hwether, hwich.
Buckley never changed with the times.
His parents were both Southerners, so there is a touch of that. He grew up with Spanish as his first language, so there is a touch of that. He attended boarding school in England until his teens, so there is a touch of that. He finished school at a VERY patrician boarding school in New York, so there is a touch of that.
And, yes, he was VERY intelligent and educated, giving him a vocabulary more polysyllabic than most.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:03 am to Zach
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It's not fake. It's a different era of that region. IE, I was taught to read by teachers who started their careers in the 1930s. I was taught the 'h' is not silent in words like 'when' 'whether' 'which'. He 'h' is pronounced first: hwen, hwether, hwich.
Buckley never changed with the times.
It's unfortunate that our Republic has cratered because people abuse the English language, indeed.
Especially Yankees that put an R sound at the end of words that have a vowel sound ending.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:07 am to BiteMe2020
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It's unfortunate that our Republic has cratered because people abuse the English language, indeed. Especially Yankees that put an R sound at the end of words that have a vowel sound ending.
It's not just our country. I listened to a video by a British linguist who demonstrated the 12 regional accents of England. Most of the stuff was difficult for me to distinguish. But when she got to Liverpool she sounded exactly like the Beatles.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:10 am to AggieHank86
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giving him a vocabulary more polysyllabic than most.
He came under criticism for using unfamiliar words in his columns. Might've been George Will.
WFB responded: 'Is it better for your vocabulary to expand to mine or for mine to devolve to yours?'
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:11 am to BiteMe2020
quote:And those folks who seem to want to remove the letter "t" from the English language.
Especially Yankees that put an R sound at the end of words that have a vowel sound ending.
I want to scream, every time someone says that something is "impor'an'" (important) or "di'n'" (didn't). (e.g. Candace Owens has this speech pattern. Listen to her. She seems to hate the letter "t.")
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 10:26 am
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:33 am to Flats
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Unless you're an anarchist you want laws. If you want laws, you want things imposed on other people. I'm not saying that's bad, I'm just saying your claim is an exaggeration.
Well I’m not an anarchist and I never said — nor did I insinuate— that I was opposed to law. As a libertarian, I believe that all just laws are based in natural law and natural law is the basis of any orderly society.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:42 am to Zach
quote:I hope this is an accurate quotation, because I LIKE it.
WFB responded: 'Is it better for your vocabulary to expand to mine or for mine to devolve to yours?'
But I've not been able to find a reliable attribution on it. Dammit.
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 10:46 am
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:48 am to AggieHank86
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I hope this is an accurate quotation, because I LIKE it. But I've not been able to find a reliable attribution on it.
The exact wording may not be correct since I'm going on memory. But the sentiment is 100% spot on. His point was that people should strive to increase their vocabulary and if that means looking up some of his words in the dictionary then you are better for it.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 10:53 am to Zach
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It's not fake.
The Mid-Atlantic (or Trans-Atlantic) accent was not organic but a learned pattern of speech and thus an affectation.
TRANSATLANTIC ACCENT: WHY DID ACTORS IN OLD MOVIES HAVE WEIRD ACCENTS?
Posted on 3/2/21 at 11:05 am to Zach
quote:It would be difficult for me to agree more.
His point was that people should strive to increase their vocabulary and if that means looking up some of his words in the dictionary then you are better for it.
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 11:10 am
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